Hell Under Fire

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    I have read the book. I can't remember what I thought (it was quite a while back), but I like many of the contributors (Mohler, Block, Moo, Packer and Beale are among those who contributed to the book). It's on my bookshelf somewhere.
     
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    I quit reading books.

    I just flat gave up.

    There was no way to finish them all, so I'm not going to spend my time where there is not chance of completing the job.

    Besides, if the Scripture is correct and there is nothing new under the sun (Ecclesiastes 1:9), then why spend time looking for something "new?"

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    Can you dig it out and look at your notes? I have started to read it and its definitely a more complex and academic read than the other Hell books I have such as "Hell on Trial" and "Whatever happened to Hell?" Thank you.
     
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    The book of Ephesians says that God has given us teachers to equip the saints for the works of the ministry. Many teachers write books and we can learn what they have to say. Also if you do not like books, then why go to church and hear a sermon? Many sermons have been transcribed to books.
     
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    I found it, but I didn't take notes in the book. I'll try to refresh my memory a bit (I see that I have Douglas Moo's contribution bookmarked for some reason).
     
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    Simply because there is nothing new under the Sun doesn't mean we cannot learn something from others.

    Sounds like a good read brother evangelist6589.
     
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    Thanks IT. I will say that so far its a difficult read and certainly far more so than the other Hell books that I have read.
     
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    Look forward to your posts. Did you not highlight? I always highlight when I read.
     
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    I take note paper and make notes on it with the topic, page number and paragraph in the book where I can find the quote. Or maybe a passage is referenced so I make a note with the passage referenced, and what page it can be found on in the book. None of the pages in the book are ever marked. I then just keep the note paper in the book to reference.
     
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    I typically hesitate to highlight in books (when I do, I will sometimes buy a second copy). I also can't stand stickers on books and have to take the time to remove them (and the sticky glue) before I read. My exception to highlighting is when books are exceptionally quotable (or they have concise statements I want to quickly reference when I revisit the book).

    I did mark Douglas Moo's conclusion (with an old business card and note) that "Paul never uses the Greek words that are normally translated 'hell,' nor does he teach as explicitly about the concept of hell as do some other New Testament writers. To some extent, then, our purpose has been a negative one: to show that Paul teaches nothing to contradict the picture of hell that emerges more clearly from other portions of the New Testament." (pg. 109 at the start of his conclusion).
     
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    I normally do the same (often I'll keep notes on a word doc as I read as well). I discovered in college that good books often receive many highlights, which defeats the purpose of highlighting. Creating reference notes has proved valuable to me.
     
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    I DIDN'T say I "do not like books." :(

    I said, "I quit reading books." :)

    But, then it was a tongue in cheek post as a reflection upon those who have great library's of books sitting needing dusting.

    It isn't like the BB hasn't got more than a one poster who has said, "I read that book, and have it in my collection if I can find it." Really?

    I quit reading books.

    The reason:
    There is not enough time to finish them all, so I wanted to spend my time doing something that could be completed before I shuffle off this earth.

    Missing out on humor?

    Warning!!!!!!!

    There is an addiction to reading and collecting books.

    A bit of history:
    Michael Ridley quotes Polster who quotes Hoche:

    "As Arnim Polster (“On the Abuse of Reading”, 1993) notes “by the 1780s, the phenomenon of children reading had come to be viewed by many German pedagogues with anxiety, if not outright alarm”. Polster quotes Johann Gottfried Hoche (1762-1836):
    “compulsive reading is a foolish and harmful abuse of an otherwise good thing, truly a great evil, as contagious as the yellow fever in Philadelphia.”"​

    Bibliophilia is a love of books and reading.

    As with anything one loves, it can lead to obsession, and which is a form of addiction.

    Not Warning!!!!!

    To quit reading books because one acknowledges there is never an end to reading books and therefore considering it a waste of the time left doing what cannot be completed and to devote that time to other pursuits that can be completed is called "common sense."

    "Common sense" is a sense that is generally held by the masses as to what is logical.

    When I acquired skills of reading, I did not leave behind "common sense."

    Jefferson wrote to John Adams that, ""I cannot live without books; but fewer will suffice where amusement, and not use, is the only future object."

    There is both humor and common sense in that statement.

    But then some respondents to my first post obviously can read, but perhaps lack either common sense or discernment of humor.

    And such will be the respondents to this post, too, if they think that I object to either reading or books.
     
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    I read this in a Good Book somewhere...

    "The words of the wise are like cattle goads; the collections of the sages are like pricks inflicted by one shepherd.
    My son, be careful about anything beyond these things.
    For the writing of books is endless, and too much study is wearisome."

    Rob
     
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    These days because I have run out of space for paper books in my house I only buy iBooks and with iBooks I can highlight, underline, and take notes. It's the wave of the future. Only issue is when a book is not available in iBooks, such as Paul Washers books then I will buy a paper copy.
     
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    Very true. I have stacks and stacks and stacks of paper books I have not finished and that are collecting dust. So my solution is to pick out the best of the best and finish those. Books by Paul Washer, John Piper, and Mac get read most of the time.
     
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    I dare say there is not much reason to concern oneself over too much study, but of too little.
     
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    Most Christians these days know too little. Most do not even know the essentials of the faith.
     
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    The flip side of the coin are those who have extensive knowledge about Jesus, yet do not know Him.
     
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    They lack that personal relationship with him.
     
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