I am witnessing to someone who was raised RC, attends a Lutheran church, and has had long exposure to the SBC through family members. Our little town has two Baptist churches--one very Rick Warren, one fundamentist but focused more on right wing politics than on preaching the gospel. Excellent Baptist churches in one direction, but 160 mile round trip each Sunday to reach them. Excellent Baptist church another way, but 60 mile round trip to attend. Both ways roads are often closed or dangerous much of the year. This person listens to Baptist preachers on tv, and has lately pointed out repeatedly that when he attends either of the local Baptist churches he hear that the message hasn't changed but the methods have. Then he tells me, "Oh yeah? Sounds to me like the message has changed." Goes on to point out that if you listen to Adrian Rogers or early Billy Graham, or if you can find it something done by W A Criswell or even early Falwell you get a strong dose of sin/hell/salvation in Jesus. If you listen to Stanley (either one) or go to the local churches you get a psych lesson in how to have a happy life. I'm stumped, and can't argue with his reasoning. In changing the methods, HAVE we changed the message? Or is it more a local problem? Or are he and I missing something? I will add one of the local churches will sing no songs having the words sin, or sinner, in them as they are "off putting."