Help me with your definition of "cult"

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  1. PeruSeminary Pastor Enoc

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    Please help me with your definition of "cult". I have heard recently that Roman Catholicism is not a cult, and some year ago I hear that Adventism is not a cult. What is a cult?
     
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    Any man made religion is a Cult...The only religion that is not man made is Christianity because the church stated in Acts 2 or the Day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit was sent to Earth to baptize the disciples and to give them power to perform His work in the new way He(Jesus)had planned. Roman Catholics, ADventism, Freemasonry, Jevorah Witnesses, Muslins,etc and the list goes on are all cults.
     
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    cult1 - a system of religious worship or ritual
    cult2 - a system of religious worship different from yours
    cult3 - a devoted attachment to or extravagant
    admiration for a principle
    cult4 - (usually "personality cult") a devoted attachment
    to or extravagant admiration for an individual person

    Needless to say, some unprincipled persons will identity
    a group as a cult2 hoping you will think it is a cult4
    and be against it. This is often the way with Roman
    Catholicism and Adventism, both of which are cult1s
    and, i hope for many, cult2s. Neither are a cult4.
     
  4. GODzThunder

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    A cult is anything that takes the main focus off of Jesus Christ and puts it on something or someone else. Most Christian cults at first glance to focus upon Christ but if you look into it you notice that the personality and teachings of the Jesus they worship are based off of a person or book that is not the Bible, such as the latter day saints with their book of mormon. And the Catholic Church is a cult IMO because they take away from Jesus through the saints, mary and the pope.
     
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    Oh sorry I was supposed to give a definition of a cult...

    Cult: The Church down the road from yours.

    ROFL [​IMG] j/k
     
  6. Helen

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    Pastor, several years ago a number of us got together and combed the various books on cults to try to come up with some kind of definition. This is what we came up with:

    A shorter idea is from this post in the archives:

    Generally a cult is an identifiable group which isolates itself somewhat, although not necessarily physically. Generally a cult authority has strong control over the members and some kind of money contribution or 'tithe' is demanded. Salvation is seen as only through that group, with penalties for leaving, including eternal damnation. Certain rites or ceremonies are often adhered to. If the cult is a Christian cult, the claim is made that the Bible cannot be understood without the help of the authority/authorities, and often additional 'scriptures' are used in addition to the Bible.

    I think you can easily see Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians, etc. all fit in this description. In my opinion, the Roman Catholic church does, as well. They are all deeply involved in heretical doctrines and Mormons, Christadelphians, and Roman Catholics are all involved in the occult as well, which is strictly forbidden by the Bible.


    I hope that helps.
     
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    According to Janet Reno one of the biggest cults inexistance today is the Independent Baptist Church or any Evangelical church. Don't that just make ya feel special? :eek:
     
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    I would content that the Seventh Day Adventist Church are not a cult. No I am not a member. Based on theological considerations of their doctrines they are a Trinitarian Church with much in common with Baptists. Adventists are becoming more and more ecumenical all the time and in my opinion many christian brothers and sister are members of it.

    What is a common thread in Cults is the denial of the Trinity. Often then the group does not recognise any other church and believes that they are it. Cults excersize extreme control over every detail of peoples lives and will often speak extremley negatively of people that have left the group.

    Mike Oppenhimer has a ministry in Hawaii called "Let Us Reason". I have found them to be one of the best sources on Cults. John Ankerberg is another good teacher.

    http://www.ankerberg.com/
     
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    you know that was just a ruse. She never released that publication or publically said the ten statements that deem a cult (that point to Baptist doctrine). Though I personally think that what was accredited to her IS truly her thought and that she thinks the Christian community period is a cult.
     
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    you know that was just a ruse. She never released that publication or publically said the ten statements that deem a cult (that point to Baptist doctrine). Though I personally think that what was accredited to her IS truly her thought and that she thinks the Christian community period is a cult. </font>[/QUOTE]BUT IT MUST BE TRUE! :eek: :confused: I heard it from the pulpit spoken by a preacher on a Sunday morning in the middle of the sermon. That always means that its true, does it not? :( :rolleyes: :D :D :D (Tounge firmly in cheek)
     
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    In a like manner, I not only
    heard it like that, i read it on
    a web page as well [​IMG]
     
  12. Daniel Dunivan

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    To define a cult one needs to ask if the question is being posed on sociological grounds or theological grounds. Philip Jenkins in "Mystics and Messiahs: Cults and New Religions in American History" uses the analogy of a weed in a flower bed. Weeds are simply plants (like grass) that are seemingly out of place. We want to get rid of them because they hold up to our standard of normalcy.

    It could be argued that the early church could be seen as a cult, from a certian perspective (especially if that perspective is grounded to normalcy).

    Grace and Peace, Danny [​IMG]
     
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    I told you, a cult is always that Church down the road from yours, you know, the one where your disgruntled members go to when they leave your fellowship ;)

    j/k
     
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    "Cult" is to religion as "neurosis" is to psychology. There is no precise definition, and just as every person is in some way abnormal or slightly disturbed, so is every religious organization.
     
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    Thank you friends for your help on this issue.
    Especially I thank Helen for her exhaustive definition.
    You all helped me very much.

    In HIm,
    Enoc P.
     
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    Would the United Pentacostal churches (deny the Trinity?) be a cult?
     
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    I think United Pentecostal Churches are a cult.
     
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    Just a sidenote. Christianity, as an organized religion, is a man-made religion, created by us to assist us with our relationship with God. Jesus DID NOT come to earth to found a religion.

    However, Christianity, as a relationship, is a different story. Don't be fooled into believing that your church organization, denomination, etc, isn't man-made. It is. The only thing not man-made is the relationship.

    If you believe that Jesus came to found an organized religion, you're dead wrong.
     
  20. Daniel David

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    John, maybe you could explain why James refers to true Christianity as a religion. See James 1:27. Thanks.
     

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