Hence the reason the left does not want voter id laws

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  1. mandym

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    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ng-proposal-as-publicity-stunt/#ixzz1gcJbdIxi
     
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    Left, right, liberal, or conservative, what ever, I am not in favor of voter ID laws. The current way it is handled is not the problem. The problem is allowing illegals to have free run of the nation and not deporting them while they vote with illegal identification. A law of this type will not stop that, but deprotation will.
    Also I am concerned about the growing problem of a government that is seeking total control over our lives and a national ID card is another thing what this is pointing to.
    I see this as unnecessary and a possible infringement of freedoms and rights as it goes beyond what we already have. What we need to do is enforce the laws we already have, not make new ones.
     
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    A national ID card will solve the voting problem, the illegal alien problem, and several other problems.
     
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    No Bill it will not. All it will do is strip away more freedoms and rights from the citizens putting them under more government control while opening the doors for false documentation.
     
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    It is not necessary to jump from requiring legal ID's to prove who the voter is to the extreme idea of a national ID card. Good grief.
     
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    The voter ID card is just one step closer.
     
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    voter ID card is nothing more than already state issued ID's ir DL's. It is not a new type of ID.
     
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    So how does this help stop fraudulent voting as just about every illegal has all these ID's? Also for those who vote absentee ballot it has no effect as no ID is needed at the time of voting. I am against the law as it does not good and it can cause some not to vote if they do not have this ID. Not everyone drives or has state issued ID. This is just a step towards nation ID cards. Thiose who support them will use the same excuse you are using.
     
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    ID's with voter registration cards work perfect. States that are implementing enforcing this are giving state ID's for free. There is no reason not to do this. And I doubt there was ever anyone who was legal to vote and did not have an ID. Ever
     
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    The problem is making this a law does not fix anything and it is a step towards national ID cards. It is a bad law and hopefully the Supreme court will throw it out.
     
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    Voter ID laws will ensure those who vote are legitimate.
     
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    True, for instance it is a little difficult for a deceased person to show their picture ID when voting.
     
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    Hey hey, stop your common sense.
     
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    No they don't. The person just has false identification and votes anyway.
     
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    It appears that Free may be in favor of an in-plant in your right hand


    BTW, it seems as though I remember years ago when Jimmy Carter was a GA state senator there was a bill that would allow a person to vote for a deceased spouse for the next year -.... (can someone Google - I don't have time at the moment)
     
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    For you the forehead would be preferable. :laugh:
     
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    http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2009/01/15/voterid.html
     
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    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinio..._id_laws_q2b1T6orOktnMipcdhg25L#ixzz1ghpa3oQB
     
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    I am not sure of your objections, FAL. Requiring someone to show an ID before voting seems like a good idea to reduce double-voting, illegal immigrant voting, etc. It's not an issue of a national ID card like you state. We lost that battle a long time ago. It's called a Social Security Number.
     

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