Hence the reason the left does not want voter id laws

Yes it is socialism. Not full blown but a good start and progressing.

 

You need to go back and reread his posts, then you'll finally get it.:smilewinkgrin:

 

Am I right in thinking that when registering to vote, proof of citizenship is required? I seem to think it was for me, but it's been a long time.

 

It sure seems to be that way around here.:thumbsup:

 

No it is not. Just proof of residence which can be easily falsified.

 

I see exactly what Mandy is saying, and agree.

You are required to show a photo ID for medication, for obtaining vehicle licenses, for a LOT of things. Why shouldn't voting require the same?
There is nothing socialist, or wrong, about requiring you to prove who you are. There is something fascist about such things if they are used to control movement and otherwise inhibit your rights and freedoms.

As long as this law says only that a photo ID, or even two pieces of ID, must be provided to prove citizenship, I'm okay with that. The two pieces of ID could be a library card and your driver's license, both of which are local ID. Even an electric bill, that matches your name and address with what's on your photo ID, would prove you are a citizen.

The argument appears to be: one could obtain false documentation, which is done by people who are here illegally. Well, the problem with that argument is: it's already happening, and especially in places like where Arbo described where there is no check-and-balance in place to minimize it. Risk Management acknowledges that there is no 100% sure solution for anything; you can only minimize the risk, not completely do away with it.

If one wants to share the dangers of potential "national ID," then by all means, share the warning. But as I stated here, as long as the law states only a photo ID, and doesn't make an attempt to identify a standardized ID, then that argument falls short.

Why do I have no problem showing my photo ID? Because I've been a victim of identity theft, where someone used my credit card for multiple purchases, because the clerk at the cash register didn't ask for additional ID to verify the person holding the card was me. Six years later, it doesn't matter where I am, I thank the clerk who asks me for an ID when I use my debit or credit card.

If you agree that you want to protect your finances by requiring an ID be shown, to verify that someone's not stealing your money...well, isn't your vote just as valuable to you? Wouldn't you want some verification that someone isn't stealing it, too?

 

Which illegals already have. The law is bogus and stems from socialist agendas.

 

Freeatlast- What does socialism have to do with anything? You keep referring to socialist agendas. Please explain the link, if you are even able to.

 

We require all citizens, regardless of differences, to carry a driver's licence in order to legally drive. Banks require evidence of positive ID before cashing a check, regardless of differences, and voting stations should do the same before allowing people to vote. What is the problem, and who opposes such requirements?

One group which opposes these ID requirements are those engaged in voter fraud. Saying such fraud does not exist will not clear the court dockets of cases being prosecuted, or expunge the records of those already convicted. Do folks want safeguards to be strengthened against fraud and, if so, what is their objection to the 1st line of defence in ID requirements? If they do not oppose ways to prevent voting fraud, then their motives are quite obviously suspect.