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Here's How Mitt Romney Might Have Paid No Taxes

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Aug 7, 2012.

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  1. freeatlast

    freeatlast New Member

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    Yes there is reason not to put it out and that is he has rights. The only reason this is an issue is politics, not because it is our right to see his tax return.
     
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    I think that also mirrors the republican party and its followers, don't you?.
     
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    So -- can we call you a "taxer"?
     
    #23 Don, Aug 8, 2012
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    I believe in a balanced budget, or one where the year ends up on the black. We will never get there without both raising taxes and lowering spending. I fear the future for our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren is bleak ... and will become worse if Congress does not grab the bull by the horns and make some politicially unpopular decisions. Kicking the can down the road will only make it worse when the piper has to be paid.
     
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    Same for academic records ... for both candidates as well as their medical records .... right?

    It isn't a rights problem for Romney. It is a preception problem and perception means a lot in politics.
     
    #25 Crabtownboy, Aug 8, 2012
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    It is only a perception for those who oppose him. The same with the non issue things asked from the President. The bottom line is it will not sway a single person one way or the other. It is nothing but a political move to get peoples attention off the real issues. The President DOES NOT want to have to deal with the real issues.
     
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    So shouldn't we assume that a political figure running for office who knows they could be audited, has (probably) a small firm employed to help manage their wealth, that this person would do their due diligence? That their actions would be legal?

    Listen, I'm as middle of the road as they come. Frankly I think Romney is a terrible candidate for the RNC. But Reid is being a jerk and abusing his role as Senate leader.

    FWIW, the Romney camp isn't going to release the records. This is a minor storm. If they release them and people (normal people) see that he made $50 million that is a losing position. The one they've taken is a good one.

    Honestly every time someone ask Romney for his tax returns I'd turn it around and ask for the President's admissions records.

    BTW: this is why I hate politics. This (and many other issues) have NOTHING to do with the substance of the campaign. This isn't in any way related to how any candidate will act in office. This is just one giant game of gotcha and it's destroying our country. Politics is the exacerbation of sinful actions.
     
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    I agree it is a political move by H. Reid and it will sway some people. How many? I have no clue. It will not change your vote and maybe no one's vote on the board.

    Concerning real issues I think Romney is better at being nebulous than Obama. He is better as being like by Noah S. "Soggy" Sweat, Jr., a lawmaker Mississippi who was asked if Mississippi should legalize the sale of alcohol replied:

    :laugh:
     
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    I have no doubt what he filed was legal and therefore I feel it was a mistake when he made the decision not to make them public.

    I have no problem with either statement.

    I believe he has been placed in a very bad position no matter what he does now.

    Why the admissions record? Obama released his income tax returns. Anyway, Romney has not released his academic records. I expect both would be boring to see.

    I have no problem with your statement. Thanks for a reasoned reply.
     
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    Missed the point; if we call certain people "birthers" because they want to see Obama's birth certificate; what do we call the people who want to see Romney's tax returns?
     
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    Because there are a number of Columbia students who have no recollection of Obama attending classes there; there is a Columbia political science professor who has no recollection of Obama attending any of his classes; and there is at least one 'classmate' of Obama who thinks it's very possible that Obama enrolled at Columbia as a foreign exchange student -- which would put his citizenship in question.
     
    #31 Don, Aug 8, 2012
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    ROFL. There are lots of folk who were in classes with me in college that I have absolutely no memory about, probably several hundred at least and I bet they have no memory of me. That proves absolutely nothing, except they forgot about him.

    And one student "thinks it very possible" ... give me a break.:laugh:
     
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    And thus, you acknowledge the utter silliness of the Romney tax return situation. Thanks!
     
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    Heavens no. I have not read where anyone says, "Gee, I forget what Romney had on his tax returns". Totally different subject.
     
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    Dude, making a big deal out of Romney's tax returns is no different than making a big deal out of Obama's birth certificate or college admission forms. Obama's situation spoke to the validity of his eligibility; Romney's tax returns speak to the validity of...well, I haven't quite figured that one out. I guess it validates that he's rich?

    Unless you want to be hypocritical, and say it's okay for Obama to not disclose all his documents and put all the nay-sayers to rest; but by golly by gum, Romney needs to play by a different set of rules and disclose all his documents.
     
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    I don't agree. Romney's tax forms are really no body's business. And unless the IRS has shown that he is breaking the law it should be hands off.
    However in the case of President Obama's birth certificate there is a certain amount of concern if he is actually legally allowed to be president and it should be investigated. Also the college admission forms cover the same issue. So there is no comparison between legality and just being nosey.
     
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    The question I have is why didn't Obama and the Democratic House and Senate change all these tax laws that supposedly benefit the Evil Rich Guys when they had complete control from Jan. 2009 through Dec. 2010? Why didn't they get rid of the Bush Tax Cuts for those filthy rich people making over the incomprehensible amount of $200,000?

    I'll tell you why - because they are all cowards and frauds. And you can put Obama at the top of that list.
     
    #37 Andy T., Aug 9, 2012
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    No, it was always apparent that the birthers had no case. Why? Because Obama's mother was a natural born citizen and under US law that made Obama a natural born citizen.

    Romney has been backed into a corner on the tax returns and much of that was and is his own doing. It is not that they are so important ... it is the perception that he hiding something.

    It is interesting, at least to me, that Mitt's father George Romney was the first candidate to release his tax returns when he was running a campaign hoping to be his party's candidate for the presidency.

    Oops Mitt, your dad say one year may be only for show. Twelve years is a different matter. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................
     
    #38 Crabtownboy, Aug 9, 2012
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    That is an excellent thought, about changing the tax laws when he had the house & senate - excellent - hadn't thought about that one!! :thumbs:
     
    #39 LadyEagle, Aug 9, 2012
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    Since there has now been a duplicate thread started in the News forum under this same topic by the same member, this thread is now closed. Please do not start duplicate threads! Thank you.

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