Here's the health bill...

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  1. rbell

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    Doing a scan of "end-of-life" finds more of the same doublethink,doubletalk as the older shorter version. The closing section of end-of-life says it all:


    In other words, Washington and Oregon and any other State who wishes to legalize “assisted suicide” or the sanitized version of “death with dignity” (IMO a euphamism for euthanasia) just keep on doing what you have been doing or enact State legislation to allow for self-murder or euthanasia.

    This version has introduced "abortion" via public funding, same double talk:

    It isn't allowed but on the other hand it is allowed:


    So at some time in the future our tax dollars will be used for "allowed" abortions.


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  3. rbell

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    To tell you how terribly bad this bill is...

    The Wall St. Journal calls it the "worst bill ever." SOURCE

    That trillion-dollar healthcare bill will only cover 2% of Americans with its hideous "public option." http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2009/11/all-of-this-for-2.html

    Annual Medicare fraud: $60 Billion. Annual profits for top ten insurance companies: $8 billion. http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/10/post_145.asp


    I'll be real clear: This bill is unAmerican, dangerous, and wrong. And anyone who supports it is ridiculously mistaken, or ignorant, or doesn't care about the future of this country.
     
  4. Mexdeaf

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    How about all three?
     
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    Thanks for posting this. As a medical student considering practicing in the US, I am very interested in the contents and outcome of this bill.

    The Committee on Energy and Commerce has some good summary pages and I browsed the "Section by Section" document which summarizes each section of the bill to get a feel for the main issues being tackled by the bill. I'll summarize my understanding of the bill.


    Division A: Health Care Choices is the meat of the plan which is to create 1) a Health Insurance Exchange with the goal of making it easier for consumers to compare and find the right plan for them 2) a public health insurance plan option to compete with private insurance plans. It also includes regulation to prevent potential abuses by insurance companies as well as taxing individuals and employers who do not purchase adequate health insurance for themselves or their employees.

    Division B is about changes to existing Medicare/Medicaid services including cost reduction strategies and improving existing services
    Division C is about improving training opportunities for health workers.
    Division D is about improving health services for American Indians.


    There are a lot of very specific apparently actionable changes that make sense to implement but most of them seem fairly minor. The major issues are the creation of the Health Insurance Exchange and the public health insurance option. I'm planning to research a little more into the implementation of those two entities to see what the potential for success is in both cases.

    There are several statements like the ones HankD quoted that essentially say that this bill does not affect legislation related to ...... (abortion, end-of-life, etc) basically to calm down certain groups who get concerned that it will affect those hot-button issues and tell them that this legislation has nothing to do with those issues.
     
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    From Neal Boortz:

    There you go. The Obama administration isn't concerned about the Constitution.

    I think you have all the information you need.

    Barack Obama, and his administration: They oppose freedom, liberty, and the foundations of this great Republic. These guys are evil.
     
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    Pure evil........
     
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