Heresy #3 - All things are subject to faith

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  1. LadyEagle

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    The above quote from another thread says this is a heresy. Do you agree or disagree? In what way is this a heresy? Scriptures, please.

    (I disagree with God being a "thing." I'm not sure I agree that God is subject to the laws of the Universe since He is the Author of those laws, but would agree that God can be subject to those laws if He chooses to be.)
     
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    The above quote from another thread says this is a heresy. Do you agree or disagree? In what way is this a heresy? Scriptures, please.

    (I disagree with God being a "thing." I'm not sure I agree that God is subject to the laws of the Universe since He is the Author of those laws, but would agree that God can be subject to those laws if He chooses to be.)
    </font>[/QUOTE]Bless your little pea pikin heart Lady Eagle, if God were subject to any thing He would not be God. I have noted before that there is no such thing as a “force of faith”. This is some figament of the carnal mind of the word-faith cabal. TO SAY THAT GOD IS SUBJECT TO ANYTHING MEANS THAT HE IS NOT GOD. WHATEVER HE IS SUBJECT TO IS GOD. I KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE WORD-FAITH PEOPLE LIKE COPELAND, HINN, AND OTHERS THINK THAT THEY ARE GOD AND HE WILL DANCE TO THEIR TUNE BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF THEIR HERETICAL TEACHINGS ONE DAY.

    D.R. McConnell’s words in the original post listing the 16 heresies of word-faith bear repeating at this point [from A Different Gospel, page 186.

    “There are many perculiar ideas and practices in the Faith theology, but what merits it the label of heresy are the following:
    1) its deistic view of God, who must dance to men's attempts to manipulate the spiritual laws of the universe;
    2) its demonic view of Christ, who was filled with "the Satanic nature" and must be "born again in hell;
    3) its gnostic view of revelation, which demands denial of the physical senses and classifies Christians by their willingness to do so; and
    4) its metaphysical view of salvation, which deifies man and spiritualizes the atonement, locating it in hell rather than on the cross, thereby subverting the crucial biblical belief that it is Christ's physical death and shed blood, which alone atone for sin.
    All four of these heresies may be accounted for by Kenyon 's syncretism of methaphysical thought with traditional biblical doctrine “

    Some Scripture for your consideration.

    Psalms 135:6, NKJV. Whatever the LORD pleases He does, In heaven and in earth, In the seas and in all deep places.

    I love this one also.

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    There's no such thing as a "force of faith". Faith is a STATE OF MIND. If any force becomes manifest due to my faith, it's the power of GOD, not any power generated by my faith.

    When my wife was critically injured late in 2000, I had full faith that God could heal her if He chose...and He DID. But it was HE who healed her and not my faith. Some others did NOT have faith he could/would heal her, but He acted in spite of those doubters. Hed he NOT healed her, I was fully prepared to respect His will, even though I'd still be hearing, "See, I toldjaso!" Even today, there are still skeptics who don't believe He healed her, but I KNOW BETTER. As a Pharmacist's mate in the NAV, I saw many a younger man die from less injury. She survived having both lungs punctured, her liver lacerated, most of her other abdominal organs badly bruised, and a host of fractures and lesser injuries. I know her liver could well have shut down from its own injury and the massive onslaught of poisons from her other injuries. But she lived. Although God didn't heal her instantly, nor completely, we know He healed her according to His will, according to His own timing.

    Yes, although I had, and still have, faith, I fully know it was GOD who kept her alive and who kept her heart, liver, & kidneys functioning. While I had faith, GOD HAD THE POWER, and it was by that power...not our faith...that she was healed.

    What was God's purpose in all this? We don't know for sure; it coulda been to increase the faith of us or others, or any of a thousand other reasons. We have faith that God knew exactly what he was doing and that His intelligence and purposes are infinitely higher than ours.

    The Scriptures say the prayers of a righteous person avails much, but just what do they avail? Why, the POWER OF GOD, of course. there's simply no such thing as a power of faith. Faith is a state of mind, while GOD IS ALL POWER.
     
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    [​IMG] AMEN! [​IMG]
     
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    BTW, robycop, great post! [​IMG]
     

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