Heretics

Discussion in 'All Other Discussions' started by Crabtownboy, Aug 11, 2013.

  1. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,625
    Likes Received:
    158
    “The religious geniuses of all ages have been distinguished by this kind of religious feeling, which knows no dogma and no God conceived in man's image; so that there can be no church whose central teachings are based on it. Hence it is precisely among the heretics of every age that we find men who were filled with this highest kind of religious feeling and were in many cases regarded by their contemporaries as atheists, sometimes also as saints. Looked at in this light, men like Democritus, Francis of Assisi, and Spinoza are closely akin to one another.”

    ― Albert Einstein, The World as I See It
     
  2. abcgrad94

    abcgrad94
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2007
    Messages:
    5,533
    Likes Received:
    0
    OK, that one sailed right over my head. Can someone rephrase it in modern day hillbilly talk so I can understand please? Is Einstein condemning all religious men, or what?
     
  3. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,308
    Likes Received:
    784
    You do not understand it because there is no context to it.
     
  4. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,625
    Likes Received:
    158
    No, he is not condemning all religious men. He is saying that there are in each generation people who are very religious, but misunderstood and condemned by others in that generation .... and later people find those misunderstood men/women were perhaps the most Christian and religious of their generation. He is also condemning people who make God and religion in their own image. That, it seems to me, is rampant in every generation and is often the most popular beliefs in their day.

    Blessings.
     
  5. abcgrad94

    abcgrad94
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2007
    Messages:
    5,533
    Likes Received:
    0
    I see, thanks. Galileo might be a good example of this, then. He was persecuted for believing the planets revolved around the sun when the "church" believed the opposite. Many years later, science proved he was correct.
     
  6. Alcott

    Alcott
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2002
    Messages:
    7,455
    Likes Received:
    93



    If these people are "very religious," what do they base their beliefs on, if they are the one(s) "which knows no dogma and no God conceived in man's image?" And if the god they reject is made in man's image, then (supposing they believe in a god), what is their god?-- one made in their own image?

    That obviously leads up to something, though I don't if you anticipate the question.... Just who is an example in this day of rejecting a god in man's image and replacing him/her/it with their own?
     
  7. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,625
    Likes Received:
    158


    Read the writings of some of the folk mentioned, like Spinoza ... or biographies, philosophies, theologies written about by others.





    All those who try to force God into their own world view or their own political view without taking Christ's teaching on how we are to treat each other seriously.
     
  8. Revmitchell

    Revmitchell
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2006
    Messages:
    38,308
    Likes Received:
    784


    Old Bill interprets scripture to support his Marxism.
     
  9. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis
    Expand Collapse
    <img src =/curtis.gif>

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    20,248
    Likes Received:
    2



    Like when you say we hate the poor without any knowledge of how we live.
     
  10. just-want-peace

    just-want-peace
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2002
    Messages:
    5,503
    Likes Received:
    40
    Amazing how one's own words can/will sneak up and bite one's posterior, is it not?? :laugh:
     
  11. Crabtownboy

    Crabtownboy
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2008
    Messages:
    16,625
    Likes Received:
    158
    What does scripture say about the poor, the hungry, the sick, etc.?

    Also, you have never responded to me about your view of helping the poor. Want to answer now?
     
  12. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis
    Expand Collapse
    <img src =/curtis.gif>

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    20,248
    Likes Received:
    2
    I will not answer your framed questions. I am happy to show your hypocrisy. You even admit you know nothing about how I live, yet you are quite happy to judge it. It stands quite well. If you want a thread on how to treat the poor, start one. Given your history of refusing to have a rational discussion about such things, I would be a fool to enter into that discussion.
     
  13. Bro. Curtis

    Bro. Curtis
    Expand Collapse
    <img src =/curtis.gif>

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    20,248
    Likes Received:
    2
    Well, no brain, no pain.
     
  14. BobRyan

    BobRyan
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2002
    Messages:
    30,837
    Likes Received:
    4
    The Christians were called a "sect" (what many today call a cult) by the unbelieving Jews that tried to wipe them out.

    The protesting reformers in the Catholic church were called heretic, cult, sect (you name it) during the dark ages. Hence the Lateran IV "infallible" decision to "exterminate them".

    You can find those who will resort to "all-name-calling all-the-time" over thoughtful objective Bible study in some of the strangest places.

    It is a pattern that seems to never grow old and always find fresh recruits to carry on the well established traditions of men.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     

Share This Page

Loading...