Hillary Clinton Is Now The Most Religious Candidate Running For President.

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    During a town hall campaign event in Iowa this past January, a woman stood and asked Hillary Clinton an unusually blunt question about faith. The woman, a high school guidance counselor, said she identifies as both a Democrat and a Catholic Christian, but expressed frustration about having to defend her support for Clinton to conservative friends who insist that progressivism and Christianity are incompatible. How, she asked, does Clinton — a self-identified Methodist Christian who also happens to be one of America’s most famous Democrats — grapple with the same question, and how does her faith in things such as the Ten Commandments square with her left-leaning politics?

    Thank you for asking that. I am a person of faith. I am a Christian. I am a Methodist,” Clinton responded. “My study of the Bible … has led me to believe the most important commandment is to love the Lord with all your might and to love your neighbor as yourself, and that is what I think we are commanded by Christ to do. And there is so much more in the Bible about taking care of the poor, visiting the prisoners, taking in the stranger, creating opportunities for others to be lifted up … I think there are many different ways of exercising your faith.”

    “I do believe that in many areas judgment should be left to God, that being more open, tolerant and respectful is part of what makes me humble about my faith,” she added. “I am in awe of people who truly turn the other cheek all the time, who can go t
    hat extra mile that we are called to go, who keep finding ways to forgive and move on.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/05/06/3775910/hillary-clinton-faith-profile/
     
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    Ah yes, Hillary Clinton, the greater of the lesser of two so-called Christians.

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    I actually think there may be some substance to Hillary's faith. She like many politicians tend to take left or right extremes when mixing their faith with their politics and it becomes rather Christ-less.

    I would love to see someone in office have a Damascus Road experience where they could finally clearly see the world from a Christ-centric perspective.
     
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    I do not believe the genuineness of the faith of someone who is firmly in favor of the murder of pre-born children.
     
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    The same can be said about those who are firmly in favor of murdering adults as punishment for their sins.
     
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    Nor I of anyone in favor of capital punishment, of denying health care to the poor and elderly, of denying help for the poor, such as food stamps, of being against programs such as WIC etc., etc. Christ spoke often on how we are to treat the living. I do not remember him saying anything about abortion. And, yes, abortion existed in those days.

    From: http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_abortion.htm

    Abortion, infanticide and child abandonment were permitted under Roman law at the time of Jesus. Surprisingly, abortion is never mentioned in the Bible, despite the fact that it has been practiced since ancient times by a variety of means. However, a number of Bible passages have been cited as being relevant to the abortion issue. They may well state some general principles that are relevant, but none of them were originally intended as statements about abortion.

    Let's face it. No one deserves salvation. It is a gift of grace that we all should be very thankful for and not condemn others who say the are Christian simply because we do not agree with them.
     
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    Re Zaac's and CTB's responses. The difference between abortion and capital punishment is innocence and guilt. No baby in the womb has ever murdered someone.
     
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    A really dumb comparison.
     
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    An even dumber attempt to dismiss the comparison.
     
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    Rolfe I believe you're speaking from the secular viewpoint when you speak to the innocence and guilt. From the Biblical perspective, if we are to speak to the conceived child in the womb being a person, then in accordance with God's word, that child either is a child and part of the ALL who have fallen short and sinned, or it isn't part of the ALL and innocent and not a child.

    I don't think you've ever physically murdered anyone either. But in accordance with God's word, if you've broken one command, you're guilty of breaking them all.

    So from a BIBLICAL perspective, how does the Christian RIGHTEOUSLY judge that the murderer guilty of breaking the same law that God's word says we're all guilty of breaking is due capital punishment while we go free?

    This is why I'll reiterate as long as God allows that because of the finished work of Jesus Christ on The Cross, no Christian should be advocating any punishment for breaking God's law or man's laws that he is not willing to accept for his own breaking of God's law.

    If we're gonna be pro-life, then let's fully be pro-life.
     
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    And you continue to bear false witness against CTB.[​IMG]
     
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    Perspective, Zaac. Our Lord's Law and Society's Law are not the same thing, though much of the latter coincides with the former. Break His Law, answer to Him. Break societal law, answer to Society.
     
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    I understand that Rolfe.

    But under man's law, murdering babies is legal. Yet Christians still complain about it.

    I'm just saying that God's law trumps man's law, and that man has as little right by God's law to take the life of an adult as he has to take the life of an unborn child.

    Capital punishment from a Christian perspective should have ended at the Cross. But you BIBLICALLY saw those who were against Christ continue to use it after His death on the Cross as a method to punish His followers.
     
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    And you continue to be a race baiting phony. so what?
     
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    Zaac, I think that it is safe to say that you and I will likely never agree on this.
     
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    Then what's with all this... junk [I don't they censor that word]... you post periodically about those are going to be on Jesus' left for not being in favor of socialist type programs and free handouts?
     
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    And you continue to be as much a race baiting phony as Sean Hannity. Put yall and Al Sharpton in an egg carton with the rest of The Fox News race baiting phonies and sell ya for 50 cents.
     
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    Read Matthew 25:31-46.
     
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    You mean , misread Mathew 25:31-46 to mean that it's ok to steal from one to give to another.
     
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