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Hillary's "new" health care plan???

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by I Am Blessed 24, Oct 9, 2007.

  1. I Am Blessed 24

    I Am Blessed 24 Active Member

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    (This email is from a friend of mine who lives in Nova Scotia (and his wife Shirley) so I know these facts to be true or he would not have written them to me. I certainly don't want Universal Health Care here!!!)

    I saw on the news up here in Canada where Hillary Clinton introduced her new health care plan. Something similar to what we have in Canada. I also heard that Michael Moore was raving about the health care up here in Canada in his latest movie. As your friend and someone who lives with the Canada health care plan I thought I would give you some facts about this great medical plan that we have in Canada.

    First of all:

    1) The health care plan in Canada is not free. We pay a premium every month of $96. for Shirley and I to be covered. Sounds great eh? What they don't tell you is how much we pay in taxes to keep the health care system afloat. I am personally in the 55% tax bracket. Yes 55% of my earnings go to taxes. A large portion of that and I am not sure of the exact amount goes directly to health care our #1 expense.

    2) I would not classify what we have as health care plan, it is more like a health diagnosis system. You can get into to see a doctor quick enough so he can tell you "yes indeed you are sick or you need an operation" but now the challenge becomes getting treated or operated on. We have waiting lists...some as much as 2 years down the road.

    3) Rather than fix what is wrong with you the usual tactic in Canada is to prescribe drugs. Have a pain here is a drug to take-not what is causing the pain and why. No time for checking you out because it is more important to move as many patients thru as possible each hour for Government re-imbursement

    4) Many Canadians do not have a family Doctor.

    5) Don't require emergency treatment as you may wait for hours in the emergency room waiting for treatment.

    6) Shirley's dad cut his hand on a power saw a few weeks back and it required that his hand be put in a splint - to our surprise we had to pay $125. for a splint because it is not covered under health care plus we have to pay $60. for each visit for him to check it out each week.

    7) Shirley's cousin was diagnosed with a heart blockage. Put on a waiting list . Died before he could get treatment.

    8) Government allots so many operations per year. When that is done no more operations, unless you go to your local newspaper and plead your case and embarrass the government then money suddenly appears.
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    > 9)The Government takes great pride in telling us how much more they are increasing the funding for health care but waiting lists never get shorter. Government just keeps throwing money at the problem but it never goes away. But they are good at finding new ways to tax us, but they don't call it a 'tax' anymore it is now a user fee.

    10) My mother needs an operation for a blockage in her leg but because she is a smoker they will not do it. Despite her and my father paying into the health care system all these years. My Mom is 80 years of age. Now there is talk that maybe we should not treat fat and obese people either because they are a drain on the health care system. Let me see now, what we want in Canada is a health care system for healthy people only. That should reduce our health care costs.

    11) Forget getting a second opinion, what you see is what you get.

    12) I can spend what money I have left after taxes on booze, cigarettes, junk food and anything else that could kill me but I am not allowed by law to spend my money on getting an operation I need because that would be jumping the queue. I must wait my turn except if I am a hockey player or athlete then I can get looked at right away. Go figure. Where else in the world can you spend money to kill yourself but are not allowed to spend money to get healthy.

    13) Oh did I mention that immigrants are covered automatically at tax payer expense having never contributed a dollar to the system?

    14) Oh yeah, we now give free needles to drug users to try and keep them healthy. Wouldn't want a sickly druggie breaking into your house and stealing your things. But people with diabetes who pay into the health care system have to pay for their needles because it is not covered but the health care system.

    I send this out not looking for sympathy but as the election looms in the states you will be hearing more and more about universal health care down there and the advocates will be pointing to Canada. I just want to make sure that you hear the truth about health care up here and have some food for thought and informed questions to ask when broached with this subject.

    Step wisely and don't make the same mistakes we have...
     
  2. 2 Timothy2:1-4

    2 Timothy2:1-4 New Member

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    Thanks for the info!:thumbs:
     
  3. saturneptune

    saturneptune New Member

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    Yes, thanks for the info, and if it passes, I think we should put every Democrat in Washington at the end of the list and let the government pick their Dr.
     
  4. just-want-peace

    just-want-peace Well-Known Member
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    Wonder how long before one of the resident liberals on this board jump to the defense of the Can. healthcare simply cause MM said it was second only to Utopia, and Queen Hillary wants our system to be as "good"?

    OK, don't get your panties in a wad, MM didn't SAY that, but you get my point!?
     
  5. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    They probably won't jump in.

    First hand testimony has confirmed what we already know. People die while on a waiting list to get surgery that they could have now in the states.
     
  6. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    We need the federal government totally removed from health care.
     
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