Hip Hop

Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by vermae, Mar 22, 2006.

  1. vermae

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    Do you think they should sing hip hop in church?I for one don't like it but would like to hear other's opinions :confused:
     
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    NO!

    Now Playing: Maria Muldaur - "Cajun Moon"
     
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    Depends on what you mean by hip-hop. If you are talking about gospel music like Kirk Franklin or Donnie McClurkin, or Yolando Adams, then I have no problem with it. One of my favorite CD's is the soundtrack to the movie, "The Gospel". I also enjoy Kirk Franklin's other CD's, especially "God's Property".
     
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    I just cant allow rap ear pollution into my ears. The sound of it is so sickening, I cant tolerate it.

    In church we need to stick with music and leave the rap noise for the gangs.

    It grieves me greatly to see young people forsaking music for trash.

    I thought punk was rock bottom. Then I thought grunge was rock bottom. Then I thought "death metal" was rock bottom.

    Then I heard rap noise.

    Sadly,

    Mike
     
  5. vermae

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    I am praying everyday that preachers who let this kind of stuff into their churches will wake up befor it's too late.Can you picture and elder of the church dead and lying in the casket and someone playing hip hop and rap music at the funeral?God don't like it and it's wrong.This sounds like the church at Corinth where everything was being done in the name of the Lord.God did not like it.
     
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    Says who, you? Scipture is silent on it, as we should. Regardless what someone likes or dislikes, let the Bible say what sin is. Musical style's are not mentioned as sin. Period.
     
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    Why even ask it? You know the answers you'll get from this board! I don't listen to rap or hip-hop, but I don't condemn my youth for listening to it.
     
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    [​IMG] I love it when people attempt to speak for God. I cannot find one verse in the Bible that speaks on hip hop music.

    Let me guess...ahh nevermind.

    Whatever kind of music you enjoy, you can guarantee that there were people saying the same thing about it.

    But I am sure you have God's word on the "rightness" of your preferred music. :rolleyes:
     
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    I said...

    And PastorSBC said...

    And I agree completly with him.

    My post is not meant to be a blanket condemnation, only a reflection of my personal taste. To me the stuff is pure unlistenable garbage.

    But I'm glad there are some christian groups making that noise because apparently some kids like that noise, and actually want that noise going into their ears.

    So...rap on.

    But I cant be in the room while that noise is going on.

    Mike
     
  10. Aaron

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    Despite dog's and SBC's professed liberalism, they too will draw the line somewhere, and use what they see as God's standards of decency and decorum to justify it. So no one—no one—really believes the Scriptures are silent about it.
     
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    Am I liberal, or are you just legalistic? You have Scipture supporting your view? Please do share! Are God's standards of decency and decorum what you determine them to be, or the Bible? If Scripture is not silent about music, please post away!
     
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    Despite Aaron's professed legalism, he has no--no-- Scripture to support his position.
     
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    Worse than grunge or death metal? :rolleyes: I know you admit this is just your taste, but I still don't see how it could be seen as so bad even by those who are not "traditional"-only. It's just talking in rhyme (poetry) for the most part, for crying out loud. At least it has some kind of form, as opposed to blaring amplified guitars.
    And it, in itself is not just "for gangs"; though pop-culture has wedded the modern version to that lifestyle. Doesn't anybody remember the early stuff, that was about awareness, even self-improvement at times, or (originally) just plain fun?

    Though I admit it is not for "worship". It is a means of message giving, like preaching. We're not preaching a message to God, so why would yo evfer "rap" to him. As a performance, that's different, though we need to beware turning Church into just a series of "performances".
     
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    Since this will be another futile debate, I will just give a BIG amen to SBC’s comments. I don’t like it (the actual music), but scripture is silent and my taste doesn’t dictate sinfulness (AKA. Polka).
     
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    Technically, it is liberalism, since he is adding to scripture something that is not there..

    Scripture is silent, we should not try to speak for God..

    We all have our opinions, and mine is always right...NOT! just ask my wife :D

    That said, I can't stand hip-hop
    But I don't know what God thinks,, He hasn't let us know yet.
     
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    Tim, I would still call it legalism. He is guilty of the same thing the Pharisees did, adding extra requirements and pretending to speak for God on items.
     
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    How about legalistic liberalism?

    OK, I'm being ridiculous now, aren't I!
     
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    EricB,

    To my ears, yes. If given a choice of being forced to endure a half hour of one of those...punk, grunge, death metal, and rap...I would choose any of those over rap noise.

    I would probably choose to endure grunge, if I had to pick. The next worse would probably by death metal, and then punk.

    But rap would be worse than any of them.

    It is. It really is. And I am not even remotely close to be "traditional only". I spent about 5 years recently playing lead guitar in a contemporary praise and worship group. And we definetly "rocked" sometimes. It was tasteful rock, and we didnt dress like goons or lurch around like we were on drugs or anything. We dressed well and just stood there and played, like you should do when playing music. But we played rock music sometimes. Sometimes we put some jazzy stuff in the mix. Sometimes some blues. I am definetly not a tradition only guy.

    It just stuns me when I hear that. I've heard the "its just poetry" thing before, and it just boggles my mind to have this gang world inspired and thug promoted rap noise referred to as poetry.

    Not musically it doesnt.

    Death metal style guitar playing is horrible sounding to me, but at least they are playing music, and the really popular groups have some major league musical talent going on. That high degree of talent is being used to play horrible music, in my opinion, but you cant deny that they have musical talent.

    How much musical talent does it take to scratch back and forth a needle on an old LP?

    How much musical talent does it take to make a "spitting" noise?

    (adolescent boys must be musically brilliant when they are abour 13!) :D

    How much musical talent does it take to yell in a staccato form, with no melody, just nothing but da da....da da da da...da da da...da da...da...da da da...da da da da....da da da?


    I am old enough to remember when rap noise first came on the scene. I believe about 78-79 or so. I dont recall it ever being about "awareness, self-improvement or just plain fun".

    For me...just my opinion...the "sound" of it is just so very very very hidious. I can only take a few short moments of it before I just have to leave the room. I have to get out of the room and stop that noise from going into my ears.

    And as a musician I can say that in the "music" world...musicians and people who love music, it is not thought of highly at all.

    Its almost insulting to a musician to have spitting noises, scratching old records, and completly non-melodic staccatto yelling going on with all of these comical hoodlum poses...actually be called "music".

    I call it what it is. Rap noise.

    It amazes me that its popular. I think its probably the fruit of our cultures continuing moral downhill spiral into depravity.

    Mike
     
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    Aaron: Despite dog's and SBC's professed liberalism, they too will draw the line somewhere, and use what they see as God's standards of decency and decorum to justify it. So no one—no one—really believes the Scriptures are silent about it.

    dog: Am I liberal, or are you just legalistic? You have Scipture supporting your view? Please do share! Are God's standards of decency and decorum what you determine them to be, or the Bible?

    The Bible, of course. What a silly question.

    If Scripture is not silent about music, please post away!

    It speaks of psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. So it is not silent, even if the exact style being described isn't clear.
     
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    When God made man He made us in His image.Can you see God jerking all over the sky singing hip hop.?We have a brain and we know right from wrong.Besides if it was good we would have gotten it first .Not after the world finished with it.Years ago the best music started in church and the world took it from us.Now we have turned things arround.Sad day in Zion.
     

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