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Hispanic Baptist Youth Call for Fair Immigration Reform

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  1. Ben W

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    Hispanic Baptist Youth Call for Fair Immigration Reform
    Monday, Apr. 17, 2006 Posted: 11:50:08AM EST

    HOUSTON (AP) – A group of about 2,500 Hispanic students who attended a meeting on Saturday sponsored by the Baptist General Convention of Texas urged lawmakers to pass comprehensive and compassionate immigration legislation.

    As part of a proclamation read at the end of their three-day meeting, the students urged "President Bush, the U.S. Senate and the U.S. House of Representatives to pass just and compassionate legislation that addresses stronger border security, respect for the law and a process for citizenship with regard to U.S. undocumented immigrants."

    The students represented about 1,200 Hispanic congregations in the state affiliated with the Baptist General Convention of Texas, said Frank Palos, director of Hispanic Ministries. The group has 2.5 million members.

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  2. Daisy

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    "Just and compassionate" sounds like a good idea to me.
     
  3. Rocko9

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    These young guys would make a great replacement for current members of the U.S. Senate.
     
  4. lomax

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    "Just and compassionate" sounds like a good idea to me.

    I haven't eaten in two days. I live in an area where there is no work because the quatamalans
    got our jobs. Why is there NO compassion for
    people like me?

    Until the hispanics, whether they be baptist or
    catholic or whatever, begin to realize Americans
    are not lazy bums and have had their jobs stolen
    from them by so called "human" immigrants, I see
    them as theives. Maybe they are just like the
    senate.
     
  5. lomax

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    BTW,

    When the black outs in texas begin because of the
    heat and overload of the system, many elderly
    Americans will die. How compassionate is this?

    What's sad is these "kids" don't have a clue or
    even care, like many money grubbing churches, that
    Americans are guaranteed seperation of church and
    state. This means the church cannot conduct any
    political rallys because they have tax exempt
    status. Not only did these "poor, downtrodden"
    people take my job, but also are ruining the
    constitution many Americans fought and died for.
    And what about their brothers and sisters back
    home that live in peril? Where's the compassion
    for them?

    These kids should go back to their countries and
    help make life there better for their own people-
    not disreguard them and steal from Americans.

    "Reyes said some assembly attendees or their family members could be undocumented immigrants, and that this issue is pertinent to their lives. “It’s not only about them, it’s about us,” he said. “It’s about how we’re going to respond to this issue.”"

    http://www.bgct.org/texasbaptists/Page.aspx?&pid=2954&srcid=2896

    "It's about us" ? How compassionate is this
    statement?

    [ April 21, 2006, 11:10 AM: Message edited by: lomax ]
     
  6. Dragoon68

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    "Fair" immigration reform would start with enforcement of the existing law and continue with stronger enforcement. It's not "fair" to for some to be allowed to ignore it - maybe even rewarded for it - while others are compelled to follow it.
     
  7. lomax

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    "The students represented about 1,200 Hispanic congregations"

    Fair would be for Americans to get their jobs
    back. Yet the hispanic groups and their church
    leaders could care less about people like me.

    There's a baptist church here that supports
    illegals and is building a gated community
    with federal funds. Nice...isn't it?

    Our government can't pass fair enforcement and
    doesn't want to. So they use the churches to
    by pass the American people.

    Is it just me, or has the church become so
    corrupt they can't see what's fair and the
    sense in all these immigrants making a good
    life for themselves back in their own countries
    where they can make a difference in the lives
    of all their brothers and sisters?

    Is America the only place on earth to live?
     
  8. Rocko9

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    I am not condoning all that was discussed and recommended by these young hispanics but I do believe that they did outlay some important points which is more progressive than what our law makers in Washington are doing
    We want all immigrants and illegals to respect our laws. I can agree with that
    We all want stronger border security. I can agree with that.
    Process for citizenship. Also agree with that.

    Now as far as compassion goes, our country has always shown compassion for these people, perhaps too much compassion. We should be demanding that Mexico show compassion for their own. We should be demanding that Mexico shoulder a huge portion of this burden. Until Mexico can cooperate with American citizens demands, the border should be shut down with zero allowance for anyone crossing over from Mexico.

    Lomax, I am sorry that you are going through some bad times. Is your church giving you and your family any aid during this time of hardship?
     
  9. lomax

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    I've gotten help from different churches. I live
    in an area that has many religious groups that can
    be counted on in times like this. But how much
    can they contribute? Many people here in the
    south, a former textile region were replaced by
    illegals and legals. We all now live on beans
    and turnip greens.

    I never minded sharing my country until me and
    my family had no food.
     
  10. Dragoon68

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    But, Rocko9, we already have a "process for citizenship"!

    It begins with legal immigration! After the appropriate time, application for citizenship can be made. After the appropriate investigation and testing, citizenship can be granted.

    Countless numbers have followed that process and many more are in the midst of so doing. They've added much to our nation.

    Why then, would we want to short circuit all that for those that would not follow the law to start with? What makes us believe these persons will make law abiding citizens?
     
  11. Rocko9

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    Actually Dragoon all three of those aspects that this young group of Hispanics listed are what we should have in place already but it isn't working very well and I can blame that on our lax enforcement of laws that are already in place. I do admire thier efforts for wanting actually do something progressive but the laws we have now in regards to immigration should be sufficient.
     
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