"Holy Days"

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  1. Bro. James

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    What is the Bible connection between colored chicken eggs, rabbits and the resurrection of The Lord Jesus Christ?
     
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    :rolleyes: You ARE kidding.....RIGHT? [​IMG]

    Greg Sr. :D
     
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    Jesting? No. Sarcasm? Perhaps. Timely? You decide.

    "Daddy, why do "Christians" have pagan idols?"--anon.

    We are about to enter another "Holy Week" of pagan idolatry.

    Does it matter?

    Would it make any difference if Jesus died on Wednesday and was resurrected on Saturday?

    Selah,

    Bro. James

    [ March 19, 2005, 02:44 AM: Message edited by: Bro. James ]
     
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    Praise the Lord, there is a seeker of Truth in Dallas. Thank-you for you supportive input. It is good to give an answer--supportive or not--it makes better dialogue.

    My wife and I are still being brought out of the bondage of "nominal Christianity". It is a difficult purge. There remain two "holy days" which give us no small amount of spiritual/carnal conflict: Christ's Mass, sometimes called the First Noel; and Worship of Rising Sun, commonly called Easter.

    We were brainwashed--we passed it to our children--they are doing likewise. Carnal christianity is pandemic to the world.

    The scripture warns of this: "the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but will heap to themselves teachers; having itching ears." Most people believe exactly what they want to believe--regardless of the facts.

    Have a blessed day,

    Bro. James
     
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    I heard a preacher comment on Romans 1:23

    He said here you have (tongue-in-cheek):

    1. Corruptible man - Santa Claus
    2. Birds - Thanksgiving
    3. Four-footed beasts - Easter Bunny
    4. Creeping things - Halloween

    [​IMG]
     
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    So,....Remembering the Death, Burial and Resurrection of Jesus Christ is pagan idolatry?
    :( [​IMG] :eek: :eek: :( :confused: :confused:
     
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    Any worship done is the flesh is idolatry.

    God is Spirit. They that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. The carnal christianity we see today is not "in Truth" but rather "in flesh". That is part of why all "our works" are as filthy rags.

    Read about "Ashtoreth" on the www.

    Selah,

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    Agreed. But no one I know is worshipping Ashtoreth. Let's get back to my original question.


    What is wrong in having a Church service where the Church members read from Holy Scripture the events of Christ passion from the Garden to the Cross? (Such services as this are The Stations of the Cross, 7 Last Sayings of Christ, Tenabrae Service)

    What is wrong in having a early Sunday morning Church service where the Church reflects upon Christ resurrection and then celebrate His victory by taking the Lord's Supper together?

    You imply this is fleshly, yet only give your opinion. How are such people by reading the Word of God together, praying, taking the Lord's Supper engaged in paganism?
     
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    Hello neighbor. Perhaps we will be neighbors up there. Glad to meet you. Christian faith, ituttut Galatians 1:11-12
     
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    Agreed. But no one I know is worshipping Ashtoreth. Let's get back to my original question.


    What is wrong in having a Church service where the Church members read from Holy Scripture the events of Christ passion from the Garden to the Cross? (Such services as this are The Stations of the Cross, 7 Last Sayings of Christ, Tenabrae Service)

    What is wrong in having a early Sunday morning Church service where the Church reflects upon Christ resurrection and then celebrate His victory by taking the Lord's Supper together?

    You imply this is fleshly, yet only give your opinion. How are such people by reading the Word of God together, praying, taking the Lord's Supper engaged in paganism?
    </font>[/QUOTE]Another neighbor. Hi Kiffen. Just posted the below on the “General Baptist Discussion Forum” under Easter on page 4. It tells what’s wrong with associating with the combination form of worship you present. Are we to "remember Him"along with the pagan god's, on their chosen day? Seem you believe in Lent and the whole kit and caboodle.

    Quote “Hi Roby. What you write is very true. But see if you may perhaps agree with me on what I see in your reasoning.

    You can plainly see the error of the Pharisee, but not the fallacy of the Catholic church, which all her off-spring have taken to their bosom. You nail the Pharisee, and rightly so, but fail to see the churches have done the same thing. They have additional requirements now for the Christian to follow. Who has now become the legalistic of things of man, and do not use that which, as you say “God has provided for us!” He provides for us ”Do this in remembrance of me.”

    That is all that He asked, and it was not a command, but a request, so it is not an ordinance, for an ordinance is of law. If we do consider it an ordinance of remembrance, then have we not added to that “ordinance” by agreeing with the Catholic church that we become as the Pharisee by adding to His Word. And even worse we bring into the mist of Christ Jesus one that causes idol worship. Since He tells us it is a “remembrance”, we are to obey, and add nothing to remembering Him in ways he does not wish to be remembered.

    Bear with me a moment please. You no doubt are a good Christian, and know much about the Bible, and as with all believers we accept most of what our church believes at the time we join. We become followers. A follower of what becomes acceptable by what ever our church over time has become. But many in Bible study of their own, see troublesome scripture that may not agree with what their church has accepted, in time, over the years.

    Most of us know from our “frog” experiments in High School, it is not even noticeable what is happening to us. Until around the 1900’s, Baptists did not observe Christ’s mass, which is for the dead, and it is also known the Presbyterians and Methodists didn’t either. That just did not make sense to those good souls back then of creating a mass for a birth. That sounds like abortion to me.

    But the main reason was the source from which sprang these two “Holy Days”, for it was that church that brought in idols, and all the New Converts that worshiped those idols, to join with Jesus Christ, in their Catholic church. The Idol Worshippers did not leave their idols at the door. They demanded, and got what they wanted. They, and the Catholic church would observe the Idol Worshippers two Holy Days, on the dates that they, Idol Worshippers, worshipped on, and the Catholic church must bring over their God to there god, so they could all worship these God’s together. In other words, you set your God beside our god………….It is difficult for me to even put these words here. I just cannot believe how Christians can be so blind, of what we worship. We evidently are worshipping “days”, Galatians 4:10. The Jew wanted to go back and worship these things, and the Christian wishes to go forward and choose their own “day”, etc. We are becoming just as Israel that God said enough. It won’t be long until Christ will have enough in His kingdom, and the Idol Worshippers will have their way, with us gone.

    More members is not the answer. Baptists also would not come near things that had to do with Idols. They had a wonderment and fear of God for He is Holy, as is our Savior Jesus Christ. But they also knew He loved them, and they in turn in their love, and knowing even though saved, they are going to be facing Christ face to face, one on one, and our judgment is not of heaven or hell, but our position in Him by what we believed. Then where we live in His kingdom we may have a reward or two of what we did down here. But we will be placed by whether we believed what He said. Adding to, or subtracting from will not be the best place in town to live.

    Don’t we know (we should) that Jesus was not born on December 15th? Don’t we know He didn’t ask us to observe His Birthday – He would have given us the moment, minute, hour, day, and month). He tells us from where He came (He has no beginning) and where He was formed into Man, and where He came forth.

    We should know that most Baptists members even 70 years ago had no idea what was meant by “Good Friday”, unless they asked the Catholic, Lutheran, or believer friends of like faith as they. For some reason Baptist lost their ability to count to three, and/or just don’t believe Christ when He spoke on this earth.

    Many will say understanding His Word is progressive, of which I agree. But we are to progress in His Word, and not embellish with what man tells us. Christian faith, ituttut Galatians 1:11-12” Unquote
     
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    Is it wrong to observe Palm Sunday, commemorating that day in the life of Jesus?

    Or Easter Sunday, commemorating that day of the resurrection?

    "One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord . . . "
     
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    Exodus 20:2 "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth".

    Easter Eggs are meant to represent "new life" Yet should Christians be making these types of representations in light of Ex 2:20?
     
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    Considering the atrocious standard of the art sculpting (and artistic woodcarving and painting) in ancient Israel, I sometimes suspect that it was a commandment made on grounds of artistic taste instead of idolatry. ;)
     
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    Well Mioque, you should have seen some of my early woodworking projects!
     
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    Of course not Bro. Bob, but it is the wrong day, and month. This years Passover begins on April 23, 2005. How could He have arisen almost a month earlier.
     
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    easter eggs are meant to be hidden, found, and eaten. :D
     
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    Well, is it about Jesus or the bunny? A quick trip into any store right now will tell the tail, er, I mean tale, on that question. Why do people have to lie and call it "fun"? Easter has nothing whatsoever to do with the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is a lie invented by satan to distract attention from the truth.

    Most of you (myself included), have taught your children to believe in the bunny, santa claus, the tooth fairy and God. When they grow up, they discover that you have lied about the bunny, the jolly fat man, and the tinkerbell fairies. They have never actually seen any of these. They have never seen God either. Is God real? Maybe He's just another imaginary lie. Two times a year Jesus is remembered...once as a babe in a manger, and next hanging on a cross. I serve a grown, risen, living Saviour!

    The Word of God says that we should teach our children the truth.(Eph 4:25) The bunny & santa is a lie! Teach them that the traditions of the world are lies, and have no part alongside the truth. (Eph 5:11) I wish someone had told me this a long time ago...I could've saved myself much heartache.
     
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    Is it wrong?

    Is not the question--the real question is: Is it right?-- based on a "thus says The Lord".

    He does tell us to remember His death--"this do in remembrance of me". We seem too stumble on that one too--Jesus did not die on a Friday. Also, He did not resurrect with the rising of the Sun--scriptures teach He died on Wednesday in the p.m.; was in the tomb for three days and nights, and arose on Saturday afternoon.

    The traditions of men seem to be winning--not for long--Jesus will soon be back.

    Are we ready? Have we any lamp oil?

    Selah,

    Bro. James
     
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    Ok, Is it right to remember the Lord's Death and Resurrection? :rolleyes: :confused:
     

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