Featured Holy Fire: The Miracle of Holy Saturday at the Tomb of Christ … by Haris Skarlakidis

Do you see dead saints praying for/interceding on behalf of the living though?

Do you hold ALL christians as being saints, or just a select few who "earned it?"

what does mary do for sinners during the hail mary and Rosary that jesus cannot do for them?

think that you are quite often giving 'partially true" answers to the various questions here, as almost are citing them as a catholic Apologist would desire to have thm answered, but not the "official and whole catholic position!"

 

Just for a clarification. An accepted view does not equal dogma. Two different animals

Personally I don't know why this would be an issue. As she is the forerunner of all Christians in 1) obedience 2) Knowledge of Jesus divinity 3) understanding of his messianic mission 4) of his Salvation. She's the first to believe all these things.

again not dogma. And anyone who obey's God co-operates with God either in mediation (prayer) or the saving work of God (evangelization). Mary was an instrument as are each of us of evangelization.

Already spoke about this

Yes we believe in Christian crowning. And we believe that Rev 12 refers to her.

I don't know what you mean by that.

I don't know what you mean by that either. those aren't dogmas so you again are wrong.

 

mary CANNOT be the woman in Chapter 12, as the passage states that Satan chased her out into the wilderness 1260 days!

Accepted view means that while not a dogma, still taught and seen as being true regarding mary and her role, correct?

 

what do you think?

 

why not? Lets look at it again 1260/365 = 3.45 years Matthew 2:13-14

Matthew 2:19-21

Accordingly King Herod is considered to have died in 4 BC giving an earlier date to the birth of Jesus than 0 AD. However reading Josephus we can discover that

In all likelyhood Jesus could have been in Egypt precicely for the time indicated in the book of revelation as his life was sought by King Herod the Great who was totally invested in the world system aligning him with Satan's ruling.
Also lets take a look at Revelation 12

Most protestants hold that the woman in this vision isn't a specific woman but rather Israel or the Church. Which leads me to point out this question. If it is just refering to Israel or the Church who is the baby she is giving birth to? Well if its specifically Jesus (singular specific individual). and if the Great red dragon is specific to Satan why wouldn't then the woman be specific to Mary? It would seem odd in speach to be inconsistent in speaking in this manner. I personally believe that the woman is Mary, Israel and the Church but the representation of the latter two is symbolized by the actual person who gave birth to Jesus Christ. Just as the baby is the person of Jesus Christ also representing God in God's entirety (Ie the Trinity) and the Great red dragon is Satan also a reflection of the world system. Thus it is totally reasonable to hold that the period of days is the time the Family fled Herod and spent in Egypt before returning. thus Matthew states

 

I think some are false and I think some have merit. In any case whether a Catholic believes in Marian apparitions or not is not dogmatic. However, an apparition is not inconsistent with scripture as the Apostles saw the apparitions of Moses and Elijah. At the moment of Jesus' Death many saints who had died were seen around Jerusalem in a mass apparition. What the Catholic Church holds that "official apparitions" are likely in the probability that they most likely occured according to their investigations and meeting the test they provide. However, not all apparitions hold "official" status. And in any case the Catholic Church doesn't require a belief in them though many catholics do.

I haven't read the details given in the Holy Fire book but I will take a look at it to see what you are speaking about. At this point I don't have any view about it.

I just read your op and know of this miracle that you speak of. I believe in the miracle. I don't see that this would be inconsistent with scriptures either. Also note that in protestant bibles which exclude the books of Maccabees we see the miracle which Hanukkah comes from the burning of the oil in the temple for 8 days. Why wouldn't the miracle of nature exhibiting in some form the glory of the resurrection? After all all the cosmos are redeemed by God. Doesn't scripture say if we don't praise God the rocks themselves will shout?

 

the bible does NOT state the Gospel must have signs and wonders and Gifts to be the real one, as it IS the power of God unto salvation by itself!

Also, jesus warned that MANY willhave done miracles in his name, done healings, cast out demons, etc BUT they will go to hell, as NEVER had a saving relationship with him!

And jesus and Apsotles warned us against those who can and do deluding signs/miracles/wonders, especially in last days!

Were they all wrong?

 

Let me ask you a question. What was the purpose of Jesus doing any miracles at all?

 

they were called by John 'signs" to testify that the Kingdom of god was now in their midst, in the very person of the Son of God Himself!

His Apostles did them also, to confirm and prove that he was the messiah, and that His Gospel is the truth!

NOW we have the sure witness of the Word and the Holy Spirit

 

Ok. So now with this understanding go back and re-read your post. I think you must re-phrase your statement.

 

No need, that was for back than, during the transistion time between the Covenants, and NOW we have the sure Gospel/Bible, and the Holy sprit confirming to sinners that jesus is the Son of God!

 

So is it your contention that God no longer causes miracles. He no longers shows forth evidence of his soveriegnty? I find that curious. And I would like to see scripture that says God no longer does miracles.

 

I am NOT saying that!

Do hold that God can still do miracles/healings etc, but that is based upon his sovereign Will in each individual case, and is NOT normitive for this present time!

And that the Gifts to do those are not dispensed out today, as its God doing that directly now when/if He so chooses!

No faith healers/miracle worker, but God can still do that IF He chosses to!