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Homeland Security Head: 'Gut Feeling'

Discussion in '2007 Archive' started by LadyEagle, Jul 12, 2007.

  1. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070711/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/summer_terror_threats


    How scary coming from a guy who didn't have a clue about Katrina. Stock up on supplies, medications, and ammo......don't expect Homeland Security or FEMA to help you.
     
  2. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    LE the left will just say he is "fearmongering" .
     
  3. Magnetic Poles

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    I would expect government officials to base public statements on facts, not gut feelings. Chertoff is typical of this administration's incompetence.
     
  4. av1611jim

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    This comment is typical of they who 'pooh-pooh' the reality of the global threat of Islam . NOT "radical" Islam, but Islam at its very core.

    Let's just divert attention from the issue and focus on something or someone else. :BangHead:
     
  5. poncho

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    "Since it's now accepted that terror attacks boost both the domestic and geopolitical agenda of the Bush administration, how is it in their interest to prevent them?" Source

    (I'm not a "leftie" BTW)

    "More often than not we were the least inclined to raise it," Ridge told reporters. "Sometimes we disagreed with the intelligence assessment. Sometimes we thought even if the intelligence was good, you don't necessarily put the country on (alert). ... There were times when some people were really aggressive about raising it, and we said, 'For that?' " Source

    Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer went further in May 2002, when he admitted that fake terror alerts were used to distract attention from mounting criticism that the Bush administration sat on intelligence warnings in the weeks before the September 11 attacks. Source

    [FONT=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]Intelligence pros say the White House is manufacturing terrorist alerts to keep the issue alive in the minds of voters and to keep President Bush's approval ratings high, Capitol Hill Blue reports.
    [/FONT][FONT=Palatino, Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times]The Thursday report said that the administration is engaging in "hysterics" in issuing numerous terror alerts that have little to no basis in fact. Source[/FONT]


    On May 27, 2004 John Ashcroft announced intelligence indicating that an Al Qaeda cell had been pinpointed as plotting to attack American landmarks in the summer. At least two of the terrorists named were already in jail. The 'cell' that these individuals are said to belong to didn't even exist. The Abu Hafs al Masri group was described by the Boston Globe as a 'phantom organization'. Their researchers could find no evidence that the group was real. Source


    Authorisation of the new CIA mission, which will not be allowed to use lethal force, appears to suggest that President Bush has, for the time being, ruled out military action against Iran.
    Bruce Riedel, until six months ago the senior CIA official who dealt with Iran, said: "Vice-President [Dick] Cheney helped to lead the side favouring a military strike, but I think they have concluded that a military strike has more downsides than upsides."
    However, the CIA is giving arms-length support, supplying money and weapons, to an Iranian militant group, Jundullah, which has conducted raids into Iran from bases in Pakistan. Source



    Repeat...


    "Since it's now accepted that terror attacks boost both the domestic and geopolitical agenda of the Bush administration, how is it in their interest to prevent them?"


    And why are we arming and funding terrorists if we're supposed to be fighting a "war on terrorism"? Are we fighting to increase terrorism or decrease terrorism? Are there such things as "friendly" terrorists? Terrorists that help protect our vital (transnational corporate) interests maybe?



    I just wish the people "in charge" would make up their minds, either we're fighting terrorists or we're funding them. This doing both stuff is getting sorta confusing, to me anyway. Best thing that could happen to the Bush administration and DHS right now is another attack on American soil. Everyone would fall all over themselves to "stand behind the president"again. They all know that.



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  6. Rufus_1611

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    Sounds like Chertoff may be a follower of Stephen Colbert:

    "The Oxford English Dictionary has a definition for 'truthy' dating back to the 1800s....'The fact that they looked it up in a book just shows that they don't get the idea of truthiness at all,' Stephen Colbert said Thursday. 'You don't look up truthiness in a book, you look it up in your gut.'" (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness)

    Rather than the Global War on Terrorism (GWOT) it should be the Global War on Certain Types of Terrorism Combined with the Global Support of Other Types of Terrorism (GWOCTOTCWTGSOOTOT).


    Right again.
     
  7. LadyEagle

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    I won't. Bush is a fraud who should be impeached for treason.

    http://www.citizensoldier.org/norquist.html
     
  8. KenH

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    We keep being told by the Bush administration and its supporters that we have to keep our military in Iraq so that we won't have to fight the terrorists over here.

    Since our military is still in Iraq does that mean that Secretary Chertoff is saying that the Bush administration and its supporters have been wrong to say that by keeping our military in Iraq it would mean that we won't have to fight the terrorists over here?
     
  9. Magnetic Poles

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    Of course you disagree when I say we should base our defense on facts, not gut feelings. Facts are the enemy of the willfully blind.
     
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    What does your gut say?
     
  11. LadyEagle

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    From the link below:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070712...rror_threat;_ylt=Aq8b.p5snBR3DiDijKao_TfMWM0F
     
  12. KenH

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    Well, from what has been in the news the past couple of days it sounds like Secretary Chertoff is correct and President Bush is wrong.
     
  13. Rufus_1611

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    "We are using every element of national power to defeat the terrorists. First, we're staying on the offense against the terrorists, fighting them overseas so we do not have to face them here at home." - George W Bush​

    If Chertoff's gut says we are at an increased risk because of renewed activities and 'cuz they seem to like the summer time and Bush's gut says we are in Iraq fighting terrorists so we don't have to face them here at home...well I'm unsettled on whose gut we should listen to?

    If we go to wiki to determine what a gut is, it redirects to...

    Thus, I'm wondering when Chertoff is referring to his gut, is he describing it at the point where it is digesting or the point where it is excreting?
     
  14. James_Newman

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    Chertoff :"I think I feel a terrorist attack coming on"
    Aid :"Should I get the Pepto Bismal, sir?"
     
  15. mnw

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    Man! Please, lets keep to the figurative meaning of a "gut feeling". :thumbs:

    My gut tells me that regardless of where we are or what we're doing, some extremist will still be out there looking to make Jihad.
     
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    That lunch is at 5...and it's only 4 :BangHead:
     
  17. saturneptune

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    There is not enough time left in this pathetic administration to carry out the procedure. The only thing that is going to stop the fraud and lack of leadership is the passage of time.

    LE, you have this guy pegged. Painful as it is, this should teach us all to be more careful about our votes and a little more discerning.

    Never again will my vote go for a Bush type pseudo-conservative.
     
  18. LadyEagle

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    Yep, it was a very painful process for me to discover the truth about him, it hurt so bad - I felt like a deer that had been dressed (to put it in less graphic terms) after the kill. :tear:
     
  19. Ex-Fundy

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    First thing in the Morning???

    FEEEEED MEEEEE! :laugh:
     
  20. carpro

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    Sorry.

    Fraud is not grounds for a charge of treason.

    You're letting your imagination run wild.
     
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