I was watching a clip on the internet of a conversation on gay marriage. There was a Catholic man who was holding to the Catholic position, and what appeared to be an agnostic who was holding to the side of allowing gays to be married. I'm against gay marriage, I think marriage as defined between man and woman, but what I'm wondering is, how strong is the "defintion debate" on the topic? It seems like everytime I hear someone who is against gay marriage try to define marriage, it seems to always be something that a gay couple could say they hold to, like "A marriage is a relationship in which the members meet each others needs." Perhaps the problem is lack of a good definition of marriage, but it seems like when gay marriage is debated on civil grounds (and not moral) the pro-gay side should win by a landslide everytime. Just expressing some frustration, that evangelicals are allowing the debate to be dictated to them.