Horseracing Industry and the Christian ?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by RightFromWrong, Aug 29, 2005.

  1. RightFromWrong

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    I put this question on other discussions board which I noticed isn't visited much. No response :confused: So I am putting it here. Now I know people have opinions on this but may be afraid to answer, since they may come accross as being legalistic.
    What say you?


    Is it wrong to be in the Horseracing business if you are a Christian ?

    Say a trainer, jockey, breeder, or owner, even if you yourself are not a gambler ?

    What are some of your thoughts on this ?
     
  2. StraightAndNarrow

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    Pa Day who's been one of the leading jockeys for years is a born again Christian and the glory to God whenever he's interviewed on TV. He spoke at a Youth Revival at the church I grew up in and had a major impact bcause he is a famous sports figure.

    In terms of the gambling aspect of the business I've never seen any real difference between horse racing and the stock market. Both a jockey and a broker enable you to make money without doing any work.
     
  3. RightFromWrong

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    I totally agree and would be my points exactly.

    Not only that people bet on ball games too. so should we stop watching those. I just happen to know Christians who would frown on a Christian who was involved in anyway with this industry.
     
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    Since the horse racing industry seems to be primarily for gambling, I myself would be uncomfortable being involved in it.

    I couldn't work in a bar, even if I didn't drink.
     
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    I've never once betted on a horse race. However, I watch the Grand Nationals and Kentucky Derby every year when televised.
     
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    Yeah I guess ball players shouldn't play sports since people would be betting on them and they serve alcohol at the games.

    I know Christians who breed race horses and they hardly are ever at the track. Mainly just for sales and when their horses run. Thats about it. It still is a sport and business more than anything.
     
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    I guess one problem I have is that I know people who will bet on a race instead of buying food for their kids. How much does any other part of the business have to do with this guys problem? I don't know.
     
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    Is it ethical regarding the horses? I don't like greyhound racing because the dogs are poorly socialized and put down when they can't race any more. It can't be a very pleasant life. :(
     
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    Ah, this subject always reminds me of our dearly departed Dr. Gene Scott who just loved taking his two girlfriends to the track.

    [Edited out link to a questionable website. A fellow BB user called the website "the front porch for porn sites." When I attempted to follow the link I found that the fire wall and security screening here at SEBTS automatically blocked access. So to be on the safe side the link has been removed.]

    [ August 30, 2005, 12:42 AM: Message edited by: Bible-boy ]
     
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    This guy clearly isn't a Born Again Christian but a fake ! Just goes to show you the idiots people worship, follow and believe. This guy didn't stop at just going to the racetrack he had others problems as well.

    I think 75 % of TV evangelist are scam artist.
    The book Christianity In Crisis pointsout most of them.
     
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    Petrel writes.....Is it ethical regarding the horses? I don't like greyhound racing because the dogs are poorly socialized and put down when they can't race any more. It can't be a very pleasant life

    NOT IF YOU GET TO BECOME A STUD ;)
     
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    Yes. It is wrong to be in the horseracing business even if you aren't a Christian.
     
  13. RightFromWrong

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    Just saying that without any explaination is WRONG so whats your premise ?
     
  14. Aaron

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    What's the good in horse racing?
     
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    That wasn't the question. I asked if it was wrong to be in the business. There are alot of people who get saved and this is their livelyhood.

    I mean God needs Christians in this business too. Pat Day was a good example. I think too many just see the gambling side of it and not the sport or business side to it.

    The fact God made women and men that are that little, don't you think God had something to do with their career ? I do.
     
  16. Aaron

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    If there's no good in it, then it's vanity and we're to shun vanity.

    So, if you can't say it's right, it's best just be done with it.
     
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    Aaron so your saying if someone is a race horse trainer, shoer, jockey, groom, breeder, sales agent, farm manager, owner, steward and they get saved they should immediatly quit ?

    There is alot of good in it I'm sure. The animals are beautiful to watch and work with I know I was saved while working with race horses and I was very good at what I did. It is exciting to see a horse you had something to do with win. People are no different than other people especially outside the track at higher levels.

    Again people on the track need God too.
     
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    Yes. It is wrong to be in the horseracing business even if you aren't a Christian. </font>[/QUOTE]Back in my secular college days before I was saved, I “worked” one summer handicapping horses and betting at a racetrack. I won enough money to pay my outrageous expenses, but I didn't win much more than that other than the realization that a racetrack is an exceedingly evil place and a business that feeds upon human beings who are very ill. You would be hard-pressed to find a true believer in Christ at a racetrack, but you might just find Satan himself there laughing at the suffering people.

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  19. Aaron

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    What's so hard to understand? I said if there's no good in the industry, it's best for Christians to get out of it.

    There is alot of good in it I'm sure.

    Okay.
     
  20. Deacon

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    We are so quick to judge.
    Leave it up to the individual involved in the business. Disciple them in the good news of the gospel.
    If the person involved is obedient and God wants him out, God will provide a way.
    God could use Rahab in her position; God can use someone involved in racing.

    I've never been to the track but I've lived beside a small horse farm for years until it was recently turned into a housing development. Beautiful animals! I can see the attraction to racing them.

    Rob
     

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