Hosea's Revival Perhaps After the Coming War in 2,003

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  1. Gavin

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    Dear Friends,
    As we come into the arena of the last days of this age before Messiah returns the issue of revival comes up for considerstion. While we are familiar with scriptures indicating a declension and apostasy, (especially 2Thes. 2), there are also scriptures indicating a simultaneous glorious revival in these last days. Isaiah 60 and Ezekiel 37 speak of a glorious revival in the face of what would appear to be thick darkness and total devastation. Now as the western powers go into the Euphrates valley for the first time since Roman times we are stirring up the key principalities of evil including the Gog power at the Caucasus Mountains. We and Israel face the virtual certainty of a war of epic proportions. Yet as the smoke clears after this conflict a new peace may open. In the usual pattern, God's people will call out to Him. And revival will come.

    Along these lines there is a little known prophecy in which the prophet Hosea predicts a revival after a long period of scattering and devastation. He also gives us some solid clues as to the time of this revival. Since the numbers come out to the summer of 2003 just as we face this war in the Middle East in the cradle of civilization I felt compelled to write the following scriptural study.

    http://endtimepilgrim.org/hosea_revival.htm

    Grace and shalom to all who love His appearing,
    Gavin Finley M.D.
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  2. Pastor Larry

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    ... And there are people who would say that the dispensationlists read prophecy in light of the daily headlines ... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :( :(
     
  3. Gavin

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    Dear Pastor Larry,
    All Christian believers in the premillennialist family, pre-trib and post-trib alike, have made it their priority to be watching for the events that will herald the coming of Messiah. Jesus rebuked the Pharissees for not watching and observing the signs of the times.

    MATTHEW 16
    1 Then the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and testing Him asked that He would show them a sign from heaven. 2 He answered and said to them, "When it is evening you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red'; 3 and in the morning, 'It will be foul weather today, for the sky is red and threatening.' Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times.

    Big things are afoot this year, for good and for evil. May the saints wake up from their slumbers and football games and stock market portfolios and make it a priority to prepare their hearts and their garments. Because they WILL be called upon to witness.
    http://endtimepilgrim.org/bloodcove.htm

    I wish you every blessing in your ministry, Pastor Larry.

    Grace and peace,
    Gavin
     
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    Gavin,

    Matt 24:36 tells us, NO person on earth know the day and hour when Christ comes, only God the Father knows!

    I disagree with you.

    Matt 24:6 tells us, there are so many wars in the last days, but the end is NOT yet. We do not know when Christ comes.

    Hosea 6:2 have do nothing with thousand years or millennium. It is talking about Judah's repentence and restored.

    I read your website.

    Dan. 9:24-27 is not talking about Antichrist and Tribulation. It is talking Messiah and the Calvary. It already fulfilled at the Calvary 2000 years ago.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!
     
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    I disagree with you DeafPostTrib. This scripture in Daniel speaks about the Messiah being killed but it also goes on and talks about the Anti-Christ. Some try to say that Daniel was talking about the destruction of Jerusalem but Rome did not cease the sacrifices nor did a Roman offer a pagan sacrifice in the temple. Antiochus Epiphanes did this but this was way before the birth of Christ and at the time of the Maccabbees and before Rome came on the scene.
     
  6. Gavin

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    Dear DeafPosttrib,

    Good to share with you again. Yes I totally agree with you if you are saying that it is wrong to set the date of the second coming, the resurrection-rapture. The Bible says,

    "But of the day and hour knoweth no man,
    no, not the angels of heaven,
    but my Father only" -Mat 24:36

    I would not do such a thing. It is impossible anyway. We know that He will come to gather the wheat, the elect, at some indeterminate time after the angels of wrath have come to gather the tares, the wicked. Mat.13:30 This is sometime around the end of the 70th week but we are not told when.

    But Jesus also rebuked the Pharissees for not knowing the signs of the times. They should have known and set the date of His first coming into Jerusalem riding on a donkey. Unlike His second coming that date was not hidden. Daniel had laid out the 69 weeks of biblical 360 day years for them from asking them to look for an edict that would restore the integrity of Jerusalem as a city-state. See http://endtimepilgrim.org/70wks3.htm
    That decree of Artaxerxes in his 20th year came to Nehemiah in the month of Nisan in 445 B.C. They could have done their homework and studied out Daniel's prophecy of the 70 weeks. See http://endtimepilgrim.org/70wks8.htm
    If they had they would have been waiting for Him bright and early on the 10th of Nisan that Palm Sunday of 32 A.D.. Alas, they preferred not to look into this.

    This study was to look into the revival that the prophet Hosea spoke of. From the context these "two days" are not two ordinary 24 hour days. If they are millennia, as mention of the "on the third day we shall live in His sight" suggests, then we have been given information by God Almighty that leads to an epic revival in our time. Are we interested?

    A search on Google shows that this is the first time the Hosea Revival has been even looked into or published. All this doom and gloom in the church as the western church decays. So in the mercy of God this revival could start quite soon. This is indeed an encouraging word from the scriptures. This is not about the rapture but about the endtime revival. That revival it seems will precede the rapture by several years. It will come, if not this year then some year soon.
    God's word is sure.

    Every blessing to you.

    Your servant in Him,
    Gavin
     
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    This is an exegetical impossibility. The Messiah is cut off. Then the prince of the people who is to come makes a covenant with the nation of Israel and then he breaks the covenant in teh middle of the 70th week, 1260 days, 3 1/2 years.

    Dan 9 can only be talking about the antichrist.
     
  8. Gavin

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    Dear Deafposttrib,

    I am in complete agreement with Pastor Larry here. There is a future 70th week. It will come in with a 7 year covenant with many global entities including Israel and the ecumenical established church. It will be instituted by the prince/false messiah. He is the bad guy, the one who causes desolation. His God blaspheming people destroyed the temple back in 70 A.D. They are still around and will get their leader in the 70th week. No way can Dan.9:24-27 be relgated to past history. That is preterism, a bad business.
    See http://endtimepilgrim.org/70wks9.htm

    Gavin
     
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    I will discuss on Dan. 9:24-27 more deeper later tonight.
     
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    You go ahead brother say on!... I won't go into it Pastor Larry knows my stand!... He was probably wondering when I would show up... Well here I am... Brother Glen [​IMG]
     
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    Here is a phrase that I like... The Old Testament is the New Testament consealed... And The New Testament is The Old Testament revealed!... And there is more truth in the statement that many would adimit to!... I will just hand around and watch this discussion unfold and maybe pipe in every now and then if I have something to add!... Brother Glen :cool:
     
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    All Christian believers in the premillennialist family...

    What about the rest of us? I don't subscribe to premillenialism. I think it's the topic du jour.
     
  13. Gavin

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    Dear Johnv,

    Ok John. I'm sorry for being presumptious. Not many amil postmil believers come by.

    Let us start with the basics. Do you believe the scriptures in Rev. 20 and the old testamen poetry speak of a future literal 1,000 year reign of Christ upon this earth?

    Blessings,

    Gavin
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    Gavin,

    Please read my post at "Good Question for you" about Daniel 9:24-27. I already explain on Daniel 9:24-27 very deep at "Good Question for you".

    That is preterism, a bad business

    I let you know, I am NOT preterist.

    I strong disagree with preterism doctrine that they teaching Jesus already arrived earth in 70 A.D. they teach, all prophecies in the Bible already fulfilled in 70 A.D. I strong disagree with them.

    Jesus is not here yet, he is up in the heaven right now.

    I let you know there are about 60% to 70% of prophecies in the Bible are already fulfilled at the first advent. There are about 30% left of prophecies in the Bible not yet fulfilled, these prophecies are talking about the second advent.

    Also, I let you know, I am NOT partial preterist.

    Gavin, I will discuss on millennium maybe this weekend, but next week for sure.

    To everyone, I let you know, I am not premill. I will discuss on millennium issue next week more deep.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!
     
  15. Gavin

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    Dear Phil,

    I'm sorry. I misunderstood. I'll take a look at your other thread.

    Blessings,
    Gavin
     
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    Do you believe the scriptures in Rev. 20 and the old testamen poetry speak of a future literal 1,000 year reign of Christ upon this earth?

    It could be literal, it could be figurative. I don't have an opinion either way.
     
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    I believe it is a literal 1000 year reign. It has yet to be fulfilled.
     
  18. Gavin

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    Dear Johnv

    The Holy Spirit has mentioned one thousand years in Rev. 20 six times for six verses in succession. Which ones would you consider figurative and which ones would be literal?

    Yours in Him,
    Gavin
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    Re 20:2
    He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;

    Re 20:3
    and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.

    Re 20:4
    And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

    Re 20:5
    But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

    Re 20:6
    Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

    Re 20:7
    Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison
     
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    I will post discuss on millennium more deep tomorrow Sunday night.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!

    Posttrib/Amill
     
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    I am still planning to discuss on millennium this Thursday or Friday. On Thursday and Friday will be my night off-3rd shift job.
     

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