How america spread freedom & democracy in ukraine

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    1. Removed a democratically elected President (couldn’t wait for an election)

    2. Orchestrated a coup with the help of a few thousand people that included Neo-Nazis

    3. Replaced the democratically elected President with a hand-picked, millionaire IMF banker (Mr. “Yats”) who quickly signed away Ukraine’s sovereignty to the international bankers

    4. Shut down independent media and Russian TV stations. Journalists are now being sent to jail for simply writing blogs and articles that are not 100% favorable to the ruling puppet government.

    5. Had a one-sided election with no real choices where Yats and another billionaire (who happens to own the largest TV station) got elected as Prime Minister and President.


    Continue . . . https://truthandsatire.wordpress.com/2015/02/14/how-america-spread-freedom-democracy-in-ukraine/

    Is there anyone here who can go through and refute these ten points with facts and evidence in a rational adult manner without name calling, applying the "guilt by association" fallacy, or sending in musical monkeys to do their talking for them?

    Or is that too much to ask?
     
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    How the US and Nato explain the invasion that isn't

    On 31 August 2014, the Guardian -- which has played no small part in the claims that Russia 'invaded' -- reported: "As Ukraine's president told an EU summit in Brussels that there were now "thousands" of Russian troops operating in his country, they had all but disappeared from view in the eastern town that has been the flashpoint for invasion claims."

    The US and Nato have a new concept of war for this new kind of invasion that isn't, in which invading troops have "disappeared from view". The Washington Post explains: "Some have called the new approach 'hybrid war', a conflict waged by commandos without insignia, armored columns slipping across the international border at night, volleys of misleading propaganda, floods of disinformation and sneaky invasions like the one into Crimea."

    So, that explains the total lack of evidence to justify the repeated claims that Russia has 'invaded' Ukraine. You can make up whatever you like about an 'invasion' as no one can know if it took place or not. Unlike the invasions by the US, UK and Nato over the past decade and more, for which there is plenty of evidence in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and beyond.

    http://stopwar.org.uk/news/ten-ways-you-can-tell-if-russia-has-invaded-ukraine-or-not
     
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