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How Chinagate Led to 911

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  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    With so many people trying to avoid the subject of Able Danger, now might be a good time to examine some of the possible reasons for that well known "wall" between police and intelligence agencies.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=13516

    How Chinagate Led to 9/11
    By Jean Pearce
    FrontPageMagazine.com | May 25, 2004


    As the 9/11 Commission tries to uncover what kept intelligence agencies from preventing September 11, it has overlooked two vital factors: Jamie Gorelick and Bill Clinton. Gorelick, who has browbeaten the current administration, helped erect the walls between the FBI, CIA and local investigators that made 9/11 inevitable. However, she was merely expanding the policy Bill Clinton established with Presidential Decision Directive 24. What has been underreported is why the policy came about: to thwart investigations into the Chinese funding of Clinton’s re-election campaign, and the favors he bestowed on them in return.

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    Nearly from the moment Gorelick took office in the Clinton Justice Department, she began acting as the point woman for a large-scale bureaucratic reorganization of intelligence agencies that ultimately placed the gathering of intelligence, and decisions about what – if anything – would be done with it under near-direct control of the White House. In the process, more than a dozen CIA and FBI investigations underway at the time got caught beneath the heel of the presidential boot, investigations that would ultimately reveal massive Chinese espionage as millions in illegal Chinese donations filled Democratic Party campaign coffers.

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    For the first time in Justice Department history, a political appointee, Richard Scruggs – an old crony or Attorney General Janet Reno’s from Florida – was put in charge of the Office of Intelligence and Policy Review (OIPR). OIPR is the Justice Department agency in charge of requesting wiretap and surveillance authority for criminal and intelligence investigations on behalf of investigative agencies from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court. The court’s activities are kept secret from the public.

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    Without an enforcer, the walls Gorelick’s memo put in place might not have held. But Scruggs acted as that enforcer, and he excelled at it. Scruggs maintained Gorelick’s walls between the FBI and Justice's Criminal Division by threatening to automatically reject any FBI request for a wiretap or search warrant if the Bureau contacted the Justice Department's Criminal Division without permission. This deprived the FBI, and ultimately the CIA, of gathering advice and assistance from the Criminal Division that was critical in espionage and terrorist cases.

    It is no coincidence that this occurred at the same time both the FBI and the CIA were churning up evidence damaging to the Democratic Party, its fundraisers, the Chinese and ultimately the Clinton administration itself. Between 1994 and the 1996 election, as Chinese dollars poured into Democratic coffers, Clinton struggled to reopen high-tech trade to China. Had agents confirmed Chinese theft of weapons technology or its transfer of weapons technology to nations like Pakistan, Iran and Syria, Clinton would have been forced by law and international treaty to react.
     
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    carpro

    Change Clinton to Bush and Gorelick to Ashcroft and you will double your response!
     
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    Probably. But then it wouldn't be the truth. [​IMG]
     
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    Without naming names I reckon there is enough corruption in the government to cover both sides of the aisle. Neither of the big two parties are willing to root it out. They spend most of their time convincing us we're crazy for asking questions and doubting their word with a little help from their friends the monopoly media.

    Trust us we're the government.
     
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    Wait a minute, poncho. You're one of our conspiracy experts. [​IMG] Isn't this scenario at least plausible?
     
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    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=13516

    How Chinagate Led to 9/11
    By Jean Pearce
    FrontPageMagazine.com | May 25, 2004

    The Cox Report, which detailed Chinese espionage for Congress during the period, revealed that FBI surveillance caught Chinese officials frantically trying to keep Democratic donor Johnny Chung from divulging any information that would be damaging to Hughes Electronics. Chung funneled $300,000 in illegal contributions from the Chinese military to the DNC between 1994 and 1996.

    It was this web of investigations that led Gorelick and Bill Clinton to erect the wall between intelligence agencies that resulted in the toppling of the Twin Towers. The connections go on and on, but they all lead back to Gorelick, the one person who could best explain how the Clinton administration neutered the American intelligence agencies that could have stopped the September 11 plot. Yet another high crime will have been committed if the September 11 Commission doesn’t demand testimony from her.
     
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    I trust the government for nothing.

    Cheers, Bluefalcon
     
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    Gorelick seems to be the key.

    Why in the world was she on the 911 Commission when she should have been at the witness table?
     
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    The British quickly rounded up those involved in and behind the two terrorist explosions in London.

    Here we are almost 4 years after 9/11 and NOBODY has been brought to justice for being connected with this crime. Doesn't anybody think this is very, very strange?
     
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    The 20th "wanta-be-hijacker" is in custody. There may be more but if so it is being kept quite. Perhaps to keep the ACLU at bay!
     
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    The ACLU has nothing to do with this but I do think somebody doesn't want these people to testify in an open court of law. I wonder who that is?
     
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    Plausible? You don't have to convince me the Clinton administration was dirty I have no doubt. I could go on all night about the harm they did to America, but not because they were democrats or liberals but because they served the needs and wants of their globalist masters same as the Bush's are doing today.

    To get the true picture of what is really going on in this country and how we're systematically being robbed and dismantled your going to have break through that fake left vs right paradigm.

    Don't you get it yet brother? The globalists are playing us like violins through their monopoly media and our own government that is subserviant to them.

    Everything, let me repeat everything our founding forefathers fought to give us in bare feet while being outnumbered by 10, 20, 30 to 1, and our southern great great grandfathers fought to defend in the civil war and willingly charging into canon loaded with grapeshot and nails and bits of glass giving up their lives by the thousands in bloody battlefields all over this nation are being stripped away from us by unscrupulous characters that claim to be faithful to America and her interests in grand WWF tag team wrestling style.

    Oh, we're so worried that terrorists are going to attack the homeland we have to watch you! We have to control you! We have to know what you are reading! We have to have more control over you to protect you! We have to tag you and track you and put cameras on every street and in every bus and in every classroom to watch you! We have to check your papers at random police checkpoints because the terrorist want to kill you! We have to have all your private information and your childrens information in central databases for your own good to protect you! You have to give up your liberties for your own good! If you don't Goldstien will get you!

    But don't you dare try to stop those illegals from crossing the borders you vigilante you! You can't pray in Jesus name in public, you can't say no when we want your property, you can't carry a gun, you can't protest against us and when you do you'll be hauled of to jail, you can't wear a shirt that says anything against us in public, you can't take your kids out of our public United Nations sanctioned indoctrination centers and if you do we'll haul you off to jail and take your kids and empty your bank account and make you sell your house to fight us in court, you can't take your kids off the drugs we admit are harmful if we tell you they have to be on them, you can't say no to vaccinations that we admit have poison in them, you can't walk down the street without your papers, you can't pass a checkpoint without showing us your papers. You have to let us search your house whenever we say and when we do you can't say anything to anybody about it or we'll throw you in jail!

    And you have to get on your knees and lick our boots and thank us for it all because we're federal gods. I'm so sick of it...why aren't you? Are you scared? Are you intimidated? Are you ashamed? What?

    Why aren't you speaking out agianst this tyranny? Are you afraid someone will call you a liberal or a conspiracy theorist? What?
     
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    Yeah and when they found the "mastermind" Aswat he was being protected by MI5! How many of these terrorists that have been caught have ties with the CIA, DIA, MI5, NSA or some other intell agency?

    That's why no one has been brought to justice because most of it is black op scare tactics to scare us into submission to the NWO.
     
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    It could be any number of people. Most of whom had some connection to the Clinton Administration.


    Chinagate had serious implications and the investigation was thoroughly squashed by the Clinton Administration.

    Clinton has always been worried about his "legacy" but this is different. It's criminal, and a lot of Clinton's people know it.

    Just a thought,but this really makes you wonder what Sandy Berger was stealing.
     
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    Watch the video I posted here... Global Governance it might just explain why somebody doesn't want to start digging into Clinton's past.
     
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    You are living in NeverLand if you think the ACLU would not come down on the side of the terrorists!
     
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    They would oppose military torture that is against the Geneva Convention. They would also oppose arresting someone without charging them with anything and keeping them in jail for as long as the government wants to (including US citizens). I happen to oppose these as well but then very few people care about losing their civil liberties under the constitution anymore.
     
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    A terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist! :D
     
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    I think I have a report somewhere about a loan
    to the Chinese government to build a nuclear reactor thru a bank that only the president and few others have control of and in that loan I believe that somehow the loan may not have to be repaid does anyone know what I'm talking about
     
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