How did Adam do it?

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  1. Pastor_Bob

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    Genesis 2:19-20 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. (KJV)

    Alfred M. Rehwinkel, in his book entitled The Flood in the Light of the Bible, Geology, and Archeology, states:
    This causes me to wonder if Adam actually possessed this level of intellect or if God providentially aided him in the naming of these animals much like he did the human authors of divinely inspired Scripture?
     
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    Do we know how many animals were in the garden at the time?
     
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    He named everything "Melvin", which is the real reason he got tossed out of the garden.
     
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    Or maybe, like my son, everything was "dog". :D
     
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    Proof that God is just!:laugh:
     
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    Seriously,

    Genesis
    19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him.

    Plainly, Adam named the animals. Since he was created perfect and in the image of God, it would seem he had the intellect to do so. He named the animals before the fall (before our brains became corrupted and dying) so I believe he had far more intelligence and brain function than we have as fallen creatures.

    My two cents. :)
     
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    Dr. H.L. Willmington writes:
     
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    So that's about 43,100.
    Using that number (it could have been less or more), and if Adam were to name one per minute, it would take about 718 hours to name 43k animals. Say he did this for 12 hours each day, 6 days a week, it would take him roughly 10 weeks to name them all. Since Scripture doesn't say how long it took him to name them all, it's plausible that God granted him the rights alone to name them...albeit one per minute for 12 hours a day would seem to be a pretty tough task.

    Let's flip a coin :)
     
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    More evidence that the days of Genesis were not 24 hours if you believed he named "every" creature. The animals he named were probably only those in the Garden. Sharks and other oceanic life were not in the Garden.
     
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    How is that "evidence" the creation was not done in 24 hour days? :confused:
     
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    LOL my granddaughter calls everything uppy (puppy), we went to a dinosaur park last summer, and there were uppy everywhere. LOL:saint:
     
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    Pastor Bob, you wrote "worms - 25,5000". Was that meant to be 25,500 or 255,000?:confused:
     
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    Perhaps Adam named them like an auction caller.
    If he named one a second he'd still have almost 12 hours left to take a nap, wake up and find Eve.
    He would have called her (fill in the blank) but he already used that name. :smilewinkgrin:

    OR
    Adam may have classified groups of animals;
    Biblical Hebrew is not as precise as our current classification systems.

    creatures that move along the ground (remes)
    livestock (behema)
    wild animals (chay)
    snakes/creatures that glide (sheres)

    Rob
     
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    I believe Amy.G's two cents is sense enough for all of us.

    It would seem to me Pastor_Bob that Adam was born "full grown" and God instilled in this particular Adam, experience, as well wisdom and knowledge, thinking along the same lines as God. I will try to show this in the below paragraph underlined.

    I believe this brings to us another point not understood by most. God made it all, and turned it over to Adam. Adam had it all, being given all authority over the earth, and its creatures, and this belonged to both Adams, yet God allows only one to give names. In chapter 2:23, it is the male Adam that gives his body (female Adam) the generic name of woman. We find in verse 23 that Adam the male names the female Adam the same name as God does in verse 22, and that name is Woman. In chapter 3 we see Adam's understanding for he personalizes her name to Eve, to coincide with her role, or function.

    We know a purpose of God is for man to name His creatures, so we have undeniable evidence that the male Adam had the mind of God. Along this line it is great to know Paul informs us we can all have the mind of Christ - I Corinthians 2:16.


    We find in the first chapter of Genesis the 50/50 that many believe. And if this is all we have to stand on then we would be as the creatures that believe "women preachers" can be Pastors, for in chapter 1 man and woman are seen to be equal.

    But most of us here know it is not so. It was 50-50, as we find in chapter 2 for they were named Adam, but after being kicked out of the Garden, such nonsense is done away with as we see in chapter 3. I have seen all kinds of explanations, and some to let the woman off the hook, and have her to be equal in all things. God tell's us NO all through the Bible, but we pay no attention for He tells us the female Adam is not equal in our churches down here. In Christ Yes, but not in our churches when it comes to Pastoring one.

    They were not equal in outward appearance, or bodily functions, but were equal in their make-up of legs, hands, arms, feet, etc. And it must have been so in their soul or personalities, but events that take place in the Garden shows the female Adam cannot remain on an equal plain with the male Adam, and did not have authority to bestow names on any one. The female Adam in her vanity was deceived, but the male Adam was not. The male Adam made a choice that would kill them, because the body of the woman Adam was more desirable to the male Adam than was His God. The Head of the Body sinned and both died. Our second male Adam, Jesus Chirst our Head, died for us in order to save not only our soul, but also our Body. His Church we call Her for this is His Body. We are in and of the Bridegroom - (let's leave this one for another day).

    I can understand to a point the female Adam today being deceived that they can Pastor a church, but I cannot comprehend why a male Adam is being deceived. They (woman) could not do it unless a church lets them, and so these churches are doing the same as Adam. It is interesting to note both these deceived today accept (or will) homosexuality as being normal. Both of these Adams are of our sinful bodies, and not of the Body of our head, which is Jesus Christ.

    We can ask the question, what is the head for, if he does not have dominion over the body? This is not as bad as most will make it out to be that the man is to be over the woman, and she is to desire her husband. We know the man is to love his own body, and the woman is to desire her man, the head. Are we not told the "Body" is our problem, and we are not to give in to it, in matters of His church?

    Please remember no curse words are allowed on this board.
     
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    By your own words:

    Not only was this in the 6th day, but so was this:

    Gen 2:21 And Jehovah God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept. And He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh underneath.
    Gen 2:22 And Jehovah God made the rib (which He had taken from the man) into a woman. And He brought her to the man.
    Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. She shall be called Woman because she was taken out of man.
    And for the literalists out there, how do you have literal mornings and evenings and 24 hour days if a literal sun wasn't created till the 4th day?
     
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    Sorry, it is 25,000.
     
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    That's easy. :) Light was created on the first day and streamed from a direction in keeping with the effect of the sun.


    Who's been counting worms? (What does your dad do? He's a worm counter.) What about the insects and micro life?

    More evidence? Is there evidence that contradicts God's word Grasshopper?

    Maybe he quit Eden because the first day was a bit much wasn't it?


    ituttut.

    The Churches 'down here' is the Church of God 'up there' for we have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. We have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. We have come to God, the judge of all men, to the spirits of righteous men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel. Heb 12:22-24 with some liberties.

    Head, as in source not boss. GAL 3:26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus,

    PR 16:1 To man belong the plans of the heart, but from the LORD comes the reply of the tongue.

    Expecting trouble? :)

    john.
     
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    OR perhaps you guys are taking this allegorical parable a bit too literally.
     
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    I hate to disturb this by injecting a little science, but let's take a look at a couple of things:

    1. There were original KINDS of animals in the first creation. Thus, there was an equine KIND, a bovine KIND, etc. etc. That's a lot less naming. In addition, worms would not have been in consideration, only the BEASTS of the field and the birds of the air. That leaves out an awful lot of animals. The point of Adam seeing the animals was to impress upon him that he was different and that none of these was right for partnership with him.

    2. The first light came from the quasar associated with our black hole. It was formed before our sun was, which appeared or was lit on the fourth day. As we look out into space every black hole in the center of a galaxy has a quasar associated with it. These are often brighter than the whole rest of the galaxy they are associated with. The centers of galaxies and the population 2 stars in the cores and hubs lit the first day, as the morning stars spoken of in Job. The population 1 stars in the spiral arms of galaxies, which is where our sun is located, lit on day four.

    3. The days of creation week were 24 hour days. They were designated by evening and morning and there is no other possible meaning for this use of 'yom'.

    4. Yes, Adam possessed an incredible intellect. Evolution would have us believe we have been coming up from ape-like ancestors. That is exactly the opposite of what happened. We have been degenerating from the original creation, just as the rest of creation has.
     
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    GE 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

    What 'allegorical parable'?

    john. :)
     

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