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How did the Modern KJVO Movement Get Started?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Dr. Bob, Mar 5, 2004.

  1. Ed Edwards

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    1967 (History of KJVO movement)

    IN 1967 I was at Charleston, South Carolina
    in the military. I'm on shifts and on changing
    shifts. So i frequently get to listen
    to the morning preaching on radio.

    One preached against the latest MV at the
    time. I sent off to him for a pamplet
    showing the errors in the new MV. I got
    the pamplet in the mail. On the
    back, stamped and added to the pamplet
    was the address of a KJV salesman.

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    Amen, Brother Robycop3 -- Preach it! [​IMG]

    That is sure what it looked like.
    I lived thru it all while it was going
    on, just like you called it.

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  3. Ed Edwards

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    Welcome to the Version forum, Bro. Jshurley!

    I got saved in APril 1952 and joined
    a Southern Baptist Church (SBC).
    I've seen 98% of the history of KJVO-ism
    with my own eyes.

    The SBC wasn't ever into KJVO stuff -- we were two busy
    witnessing to lost souls for Jesus.
    A Million More in '54!
     
  4. skanwmatos

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    Let's see. 1865 to 2004 = 139 years. 1952 to 2004 = 52 years. Last time I checked, 52 years is not 98% of 139 years. Let me guess. You were not a math major, were you?
     
  5. Ed Edwards

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    Let's see. 1865 to 2004 = 139 years. 1952 to 2004 = 52 years. Last time I checked, 52 years is not 98% of 139 years. Let me guess. You were not a math major, were you? </font>[/QUOTE]Actually I am a math
    major. 2 guys in 1876 and 20,000 wandering
    KJBOs in 1986, yep, it averages up to
    98% of the history of KJBOism happend
    from 1952 to 2004.

    What is your testimony?

    The come 1979 and i get a HOT COPY of
    SABOTAGE? (Chick, 1979).
    (the answer BTW is "no")

    I looked for the books in 1979-1983,
    the ones that are referenced there
    (These books have also been referenced above)
    I couldn't find them.)

    They are very much like the 4,000 books
    on Atlantis, they all reference each other
    AND NOTHING ELSE. So here you have
    some KJVO books that cross-reference each
    other AND NOTHING ELSE.

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  6. skanwmatos

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    I am not sure where you are getting your statistics, but I am fairly certain there were more than 2 people opposed to the REV of 1865. I doubt only 2 people could bring about its failure.

    As to there being 20,000 in 1986, again, I and not sure where you get that number, but I suspect there not only were not that many in 1986, I doubt there are that many now.
     
  7. Ed Edwards

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    Sigh, the numbers are not researched,
    they are "for example".
    There are lot more KJBOs now then
    there were 100 years ago.

    In THE RESURGENCE OF CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANITY
    Ed Dobson, Ed Hindson, and Jerry Falwell
    note that one problem the conservatives
    have is "Elevation of minor issues".
    This includes KJVO and wearing pants.

    I understand that Jerry Falwell was a
    successful IFB. So the IFB booted him out
    of their organization. Now Jerry Falwell
    has more people in his church than
    ½ the IFBs in the country [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Ed Edwards

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    Uh Oh, the KJBOs heard that :(
    Duck Scan! INCOMING!

    :eek:
     
  9. tinytim

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    Robycop, I appreciated your post. I even clipped it for my research.
    Skan, thank you for your comments I will also research what you said.

    I don't doubt there were KJVO all the way back to 1611, I figure the translators were pretty proud of their work!

    But growing up IFB, I never heard of the controversy until around 1990.
    I was never in a church that billed itself as KJV1611 only until 1997.

    We never questioned other versions growing up.
    the NIV existed. as did the Living Bible.
    I do remember my dad not liking the living bible. but he was not KJVO.

    I too seem to side with Roby, and ED.
    Just from my experience in central WV.
    But of course everything in Central WV is behind the times.
    Why, I've heard of this heer contraption that will let a person talk into a box and they can be heard miles away. Can't wait until I get meself one. :D :rolleyes:
     
  10. mioque

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    "I don't doubt there were KJVO all the way back to 1611, I figure the translators were pretty proud of their work!"
    And now I'm going to disagree with Tim a little.
    judging from the preface of the 1611 AV , the translators were AVpreferred but certainly not AVonly.
     
  11. Archangel7

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    &lt;With tongue planted firmly in cheek&gt; Didn't the KJVO movement begin when King James I doubted the "pure, perfect, preserved word of God in English" -- the 1560 Geneva Bible? "Yea, hath God in deede said..." [​IMG]
     
  12. Archangel7

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    Actually, there *is* Scriptural proof against any kind of "One Version Onlyism." We have the example of Philip, who used a different version of Isaiah to preach Christ to the Ethiopian eunuch (see Ac. 8:26-35, Isa. 53:7-8). We also have the example of Jesus Himself, who saw no problem with reading from a different version of Isaiah in his hometown synagogue (see Lk. 4:16-21, Isa. 61:1-2).

    If Jesus and the apostles had no qualms about using a different version, why should we?
     
  13. Ed Edwards

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    1992 (Ed's short & personal
    history of the KJVO movement)

    I visited teh Bible Museum
    in Eureka, Arkansas. In this collection
    they even have an Adulter's Bible,
    the one with the commandment: "Thou
    shalt commit Adultry".

    Across the street at the book & gift store
    they had copies of some of the old Bibles,
    back then about $2 a page. I bought
    a page with the Gothic Print cause I thought
    my young adult Daughter might like it.

    I thought i might like a reprit of a whole
    Bible if any (but surely not at $2 a page)
    I used one of the on-line search engines
    available back then. I found out the
    phrase KJV_1611 was on a few dozen web
    pages (this morning on Goggle KJV 1611
    gets over 2900 hits) But none of them actually
    used the KJV1611 at all, many ignored
    that the version they used is NOT the
    KJV1611 at all but the KJV1769. Yes
    I had stepped right into the KJVO movement
    on-line. An innocent Lion in a whole
    Den of Daniels :(

    So it was later before i acutally found
    a copy of a reprint KJV1611.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Baptist in Richmond

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    This is patently obvious: the reason for being anti-KJVO is due to the fact that there is NO SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT for such a belief.
    In other words, one cannot justify the complete rejection of all other English translations of God's Holy Word. This is precisely the same reason that I do not believe in Purgatory.
     
  15. Baptist in Richmond

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    An IFB organization?
    Wouldn't that be an oxymoron??

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I hope that all is well with you and your wonderful family, Ed. May God deluge you with His Blessings.
     
  16. Baptist in Richmond

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    Take thy tongue out of cheek.

    The 1560 Geneva Bible IS the Word of God. Actually, I have a copy of the 1599 Geneva Bible [sans Apocrypha :( ] and the 1557 Geneva Bible (New Testament only).

    My TRUE 1611 Authorised Version is also the Word of God.
    Additionally, so is my copy of the Septuagint,
    as is my copy of the Wiclif Bible,
    and my Tyndale Bible,
    and my Cranmer New Testament,
    and my Dead Sea Scrolls Bible
    as well as my New King James Version.

    If I had not given my 1769 Revision to my church, it too would be the Word of God. It still is the Word of God, I simply do not have a copy.

    Hope this post finds you well. [​IMG]
     
  17. Ed Edwards

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    Amen Brother Baptist in Richmond -- Preach it! [​IMG]
     
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    Skanwmatos:Why do you continue to ignore the facts of history? Why do you ignore the work of Broadus, Hovey, and Weston,....

    Skan, how many times do I hafta repeat,"theMODERNKJVO monster"? Shoot, there were "Geneva Bible Onlyists" in the early 1600s, and an occasional book or article from then until the 1800s. But what we're discussing here is the Onlyism myth as it's advocated NOW. You know as well as I do that the current fad is much-different from the little sewing-circle type stuff of the 1800s, mainly because there weren't too many other English BVs to attack back then.
     
  19. Jim Ward

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    That big ole work day over so soon Cranston? Seems like not as many hours were worked as claimed if you are here so soon. In fact you mentioned something about working over 12 hours in a post, and it hasn't been 12 hours since your last post from last night.

    When oh when does truth start coming forth from you?
     
  20. Ed Edwards

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    The JOKE IS ON YOU Brother
    Jim Ward. He clearly said that it would
    start at 3PM Saturday afternoon and extend
    until 7AM Sunday morning.

    Some KJVOs don't read the Bible
    but have it read to them.
    /ed has a thought about a new charitable
    enterprise/
    [​IMG]
     
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