How did you become KJVO?

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  1. uhdum

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    This thread is for those who are KJVO. I am also starting a thread for the other side, as I am doing some personal research on how both sides arrived at their conclusions.

    Simply tell me how you came to the KJVO position.

    God bless
     
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    For me, I believe by faith that the King James Bible is God's complete, inspired, infallible, word of God. It worked for my dad and family and it works for me and my family. It is my final answer in faith and practice. Also, it seems like the one the world seems to avoid/dislike. Also, it just makes since that God would use one (1) book to relay his message, so that there would be less confusion. But, the devil is the author of confusion and that (I believe) is why we have a bible for just about every personality today.
     
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    How did I become KJVO? hmmm~I think someone labeled me that here on the BB. Never heard of this "terminology" before, but it don't bother me at all.

    I was born & bred with the ONLY Bible I've ever known(or touched). I trust the words there, have never had any reason to doubt it, or seek elsewhere. Pure faith; simple, eh? Thank-you, Lord. [​IMG]
     
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    The KJV is the inspired, preserved Word of God because of its superiority over modern versions. The truth that I found is that the Bible history favors the KJV/TR than modern versions because of the KJV superiority. The KJV superiority is 4-fold "T": Texts, Translators, Technique and Theology.

    Texts: manuscript evidence is 99%. MVs - 1%.

    Translators: Highly quality that MVs do not have.

    Technique: Superiority that MVs do not have today.

    Theology: no contradiction. MVs has some contradictions in their theology.

    The KJV is God's Word kept intact in English.

    That's why I only use the KJV.
     
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    First: I got saved.

    2nd: I came into BB and made my stand known on the AV 1611 KJB

    3rd: I got labeled by some 5 point evaluation method by some scribe or something

    4th: I'm mad at Askjo for giving my answer before i did. Loopy online! I'm only kidding, Askjo, good response!
     
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    Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

    First I would like to say Amen! to all of your posts! I agree also 100%.

    As for me, I was called out by the Lord a little over three years ago. Not by man, or anything else. The Lord put the desire in my heart to read HIS WORD OF TRUTH. At the time, I did not have a Bible. I never had one. I came from a family that taught us about Jesus and his teachings, but we were only holiday type christians. I never doubted that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Saviour, but I never KNEW HIM. It is a long story on how I came to God's word, but I was saved by his word that was in a book I was reading that I found when searching for a Bible - even though I knew I didn't have one. I needed to read God's word. This book was the closest thing, and the word that convicted my heart, and the version used was a KJV. I didn't know this at that time, nor did I know anything about this debate. I just knew that it was God's word because the words were alive and spoke to my heart, like no other words ever could, nor have. My husband, who is not yet saved, and an atheist, brought home to me the very next day a Bible. It was a KJV. So from the beginning of my faith and salvation, this is the word of God that has blessed me so very much. Previous to my learning anything about this issue, I was given a Bible - NKJB and this did not speak to my heart, nor seemed alive as did God's word in my KJV. Needless to say, I continued reading the KJV until this day. I knew it was God's preserved word without anyone having to tell me, and I was very surprised and delighted to find out that I could understand it! Contrary to things I had heard people say about the Bible, and what I had believed my whole life, I could understand God's word. Why? Because HE was there helping me to understand by the Holy Spirit of truth dwelling in my heart, and because I was saved. If one is not saved, one cannot understand the things of God, no matter how many times they read the word of God. They might have head knowledge, but not heart knowledge. Take Matthew 11:25 for instance. This is a very telling verse in this prayer from Jesus to His Father in Heaven.

    I am not a KJVO - this has been a label applied to me because I can see and warn of corruptions that have been done to God's word in the modern versions.

    May the Lord continue to richly bless you all in Spirit and Truth.

    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!
    michelle
     
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    I like you Michelle, and you've got a good husband too. He is very intelligent , even as an atheist, to know the KJB is the Bible, and the right one at that. [​IMG]
     
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    Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

    Hiya Brother Ricky! I like you to, and love you as my dear brother in Christ Jesus. I thank and praise God for our meeting in here. I always have felt (because I can't prove it) by faith that the Lord imparted to my husbands heart that day to bring me the KJV - His uncorrupted and pure word of Truth. Praise the Lord! I also have been in isolation (that is didn't belong to a church) for almost this whole time I have been saved (I am now). The Lord has led me to find out about the great apostacy within the churches today to prepare me to find the right church. When I was first saved, and continually, I pray/ed to the Lord to help keep me from deception and he has faithfully and truthfully and consistantly answered my prayer. I do always and forever thank and praise our loving Saviour and Lord's precious name Jesus Christ!I never want to be deceived again. I have great compassion for those who are in deception, as well as those who are lost. This is why I come here to this topic.

    May the Lord richly bless you all in his Spirit and Truth.

    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior,
    michelle
     
  9. Jim Ward

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    I have my answer in an article that I wrote and am unsure if the whole thing will fit here. May I e-mail it to you?


    Jim
     
  10. Ed Edwards

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    In this site:

    Four Kinds of KJVO

    Dr. Bob, lists four different
    kinds of KJVO. Please read that article
    and tell us which of these KJVOs that
    you are not. You might also note which of
    the four types have been attributed to
    you.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. timothy 1769

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    The first Bible I read was the NIV (and to this day I still appreciate its overall style and generally conservative translations.)

    Looking for a more literal, but not wooden, translation I tried the nKJV but was disturbed to find many discrepancies with the NIV.

    I didn't really know what to think, but my gut reaction was the NIV was wrong to have left out or cast doubt on so many verses.

    About this time, I started noting the bias of some verse translations in the MVs, especially verses concerning feminist issues.

    I didn't particularly want to deal with the KJV (the MVs were easier for me to read), but I felt I had to reach back far enough in time to get beyond such bias and so the KJV was the logical choice - it had all the verses, and there was no way for it to be tained with modern isms. So I made the KJV my main bible.

    Around this time I discovered BB, and was introduced to the whole KJVO/MV controversy. Honestly, the MV ways of thinking were more comfortable to me, but many of the KJVO objections did have merit. I didn't see a good answer. At the time, Pastor Bob was actively debating the issue and I was impressed with his Crhistlike manner even in the face of intense sarcasm and insults. The impressed me a great deal, and made me open to considering KJVO in greater depth.

    Over the next couple of months, I did some reading and found David Cloud's website which has been a great blessing to me. (David Cloud is what could be called a "moderate" KJVO). Also during this time I was broadsided in this forum by a lot of Biblical "errors" and "contradictions" that I was not mature enough to handle and seriously disturbed me.

    What finally pushed me over, though, into the KJVO camp was the fervency, integretity and faith of one poster in particular - Faith, Fact, and Feeling. If you're still reading this forum, I'd like to say thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

    I've been fearlessly believeing my Bible, all of it, every single word of it, ever since.
     
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    [snipped - this thread is for those who are KJVO to express their reasons. Debate on the other 200 threads!]

    [ February 28, 2004, 02:31 AM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob Griffin ]
     
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    Hey, I'm silly and pathetic too! Anyone else?
     
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    Silly and pathetic and oh yeah, batting ZERO! [​IMG] How wonderful it is! [​IMG]
     
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    Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

    Alcott,

    What you might term "being pathetic" is of course, your own opinion and I find this opinion very sad indeed. I call it God's wonderful truth, grace and mercy! Praise the Lord!

    You (Alcott) quoted:

    He requires no written words, and especially no particular translation of manuscripts, to get through to somebody.

    --------------------------------------------------

    I beg to differ with you on this as the scriptures say otherwise:

    Note.....

    Romans 10:14-21

    14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
    15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THEM THAT PREACH THE GOSPEL OF PEACE, AND BRING GOOD TINDINGS OF GOOD THINGS!
    16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah saith, LORD, WHO HATH BELIEVED OUR REPORT?
    17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing the word of God.
    18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, THEIR SOUND WENT INTO ALL THE EARTH, AND THEIR WORDS UNTO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD.
    19 But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I WILL PROVOKE YOU TO JEALOUSY BY THEM THAT ARE NO PEOPLE, AND BY A FOOLISH NATION I WILL ANGER YOU.
    20 But Isaiah is very bold, and saith, I WAS FOUND OF THEM THAT SOUGHT ME NOT; I WAS MADE MANIFEST UNTO THEM THAT ASKED NOT AFTER ME.
    21 But to Israel he saith, ALL DAY LONG I HAVE STRETCHED FORTH MY HANDS UNTO A DISOBEDIENT AND GAINSAYING PEOPLE.

    and.....

    John 6:44-45

    44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
    45 It is written in the prophets, AND THEY SHALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
    46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

    May the Lord richly bless you all!

    love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
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    Peace and love to you in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

    Ed,

    Just because some "man" applies a label to me of his own opinion, does not make it so. The Scribes and Pharisees of Jesus day thought that he was Beezlebub, but in fact it was not true!

    Matthew 10:28

    28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

    May the Lord richly bless you all!

    Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
  17. Alex Mullins

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    Greetings to all in the name of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ:

    I am thankful that God still works, in spite of the many ways that institutions and men have mutilated his word over the centuries.

    In 1966, I was employed by a bank in Canada and, as a result of that, we transferred to several towns over the course of 10 years. We were married, unequally yolked, at my wife's home church in PA. She was a believer, since age 11, so it was always important, to her, that we find a local church immediately after moving. I would tag along because I loved and respected her and felt in my heart, this is what good, honest and decent people did on Sunday morning. Also, it was a good place to make friends. I liked and was attracted to Christians, even though they were imperfect, they were generally trying to do better.

    Over the course of 3 - 4 years we attended a lot of Baptist churches, joined a few, even though I was still not a believer. We had three beautiful children who were all saved and today are walking with the Lord. Two of them do not agree with my stance becasue they are involved in apostate churches and are "Bible school educated."
    I still love them and would never question their salvation or good intentions.

    After I was saved, a story in itself, we relocated again to several Ontario towns, eventually settling for 5 years in Waterloo, ON where we were led to First Baptist Church. This church was vibrant, growing, relocating, in a building program and very much a KJB church. That's what the Pastor used and he knew why!

    This was not an Independant Baptist Church, which is where you find KJO folks today, for the most part. Many of larger "association" churches have succumbed to the pressure to adapt the easier-to-read multitude of versions we see today. It is very much a "whatever-you-feel-good-with" approach.

    It was not until my job, once again, relocated us, that we fully understood the importance and significance of what we had at FBC Waterloo.

    Our Pastor was a Bible expositor and would explain, using scripture to interpret itself, why he believed in a literal interpretation of scripture, rightly dividing the word of truth that the KJB was God's pure word for us today in our language.

    God promised it and He keeps his promises. We had it, it worked for us and that was it. He spent a limited amount of time in comparing the differences between the KJ and the MV's, which he felt proved his position, but mostly the message was that Jesus died to save sinners and offered the free gift of eternal life. The little local church was being added to daily. No argueing. No confusion about about what God's Word said.

    Because of his position and the fact that the KJ was the only Bible used, it was a beautiful thing, to be able to, all of us read and commit to memory, the same words and then to apply them to our daily walk.

    We had a similar, very definite belief in other matters too, such as prophecy issues, the things to come. Their was no confusion, there was no doubt or arguing in that church.

    It was not until we moved again that we encountered confusion, even ridicule and persecution for this belief in the KJB and our stand for the truth of the premillenial rapture and the biblical sequence of events as prophesied in scripture.

    The precious promise of such verses as Psalms 12: 6 - 7 and the warnings contained in Matthew: 24 and many others were preached and we were reminded of the way things were going to go, according to God's word.

    Many churches are falling into the apostate trap, going with the flow, according to Matt:24 and Timothy: 3.

    Our pastor also spent a lot of time in teaching us about the mind of God and His ways. He would pose questions such as:

    Why would God want us to have 200 flawed versions (KJ included) of His word? The answer - He would not and could not. It is not in keeping
    with his purpose or nature. He is not the author of confusion!

    Why would Satan not desire to get into the Word, alter and pervert it for the purpose of dividing believers and bringing confusion and division among us? The answer. That is exactly what Satan does! It is fully in keeping with his purpose and his nature! He IS the author of all confusion! His purpose - CONQUER AND DIVIDE!

    So, there it ladies and gentlemen, in a nutshell.

    Take a look at this very forum. Satan has been wildly successful at doing what he set out to do. Where is the Christian love and care, one for another, in this topic? I submit, it is hard to find here.

    There is infinitely more time spent in defending whatever version you believe in, putting down and criticizing others, than spreading this precious Gospel and fulfilling the Great Commission.

    Satan has been most succesful in doing what he set out to do in the Garden of Eden when he placed that seed of doubt in Eve's mind by saying "Yea, hath God said?"

    Thinking about it, The KJB is the ONLY Bible we have in our language today that IS that pure Word. it can be no other! It has stood the test of time. It has risen out of the incorruptible TR. It has been revised (not rewritten) three times. I could be convinced to concur, it may be due another revision as the world's english language changes.

    No one has claimed any other to be God's pure Word. No other Bible has been as attacked as this one.

    For reasonable discerning folks, that he KJB is God's pure Word, every word exactly where it should be, meaning exactly what it should mean. This is the only logical conclusion this believer can arrive at.

    Go ahead, have at me. I have never had the "benefit" of a "Bible School" education, so am definitely diadvantaged.

    Love, Peace and God's blessings

    AV Alex
     
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    Alex, would you care to discuss your views further in the "by whose authority" thread? Or, perhaps, another existing thread, or a new one?

    Cranston
     
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    uhdum,

    My family since they were saved have always only used the KJV. Every other version sounds foreign to me. The KJV was what I was brought up under. Its been around since 1611. It has been used by God since then and I dont see a need to change. To me it has always been the Word of God in English. Thank you for the topic. Bye.
     
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    Did my post get dumped? Just curious. I didn't think it was any worse than others, oh well. Sorry, if it was.
     

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