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They sure were not Stephen’s fathers. The Jews did not call their leaders ‘father’. So why else do you think Stephen said ‘fathers’?

I am not speaking of biological children.

Targus,
Since you do not think that I know the truth, teach me how to obey. Tell me how you and all Catholics obey Jesus in the command call no man ‘father’.
I told you how I obey; now you tell me how you do.

I have answered all your questions, so why will you not answer mine?

 

I will try my best not to sound like a basher. I am someone who has had their eyes opened up and wants to reveal these wonderful things to you and others, so that you can know them too. I speak about God and Jesus out of love.

Calling your earthly father ‘father’ is not a sin. Jesus is speaking of Spiritual things.

Paul was a father as one being a teacher to God’s children. Paul NEVER tells anyone to call him ‘father’, and the Bible has no account of anyone calling Paul ‘father’, or Paul would probably be corrected in this, as would the others who call him ‘father’. I believe Paul would have been corrected as Paul corrected Peter when he stepped out of line with the truth.

If I teach you anything in the truth, I may be as a father, but that in no way would cause me to get away with having you call me father, and vice verse.

That is not obeying. To call a brother 'father' and not mean to say God the Father is not obeying. Jesus says call no man father that we are brothers in Christ. Catholics call their brothers in Christ father, and that is against the Word of God.

When I say they sin and go against God, that is not so bad if they repent. So, please do not take it as bad, unless there is no repenting from it.

The word ‘pope’ means ‘father’. It is no longer a justifiable argument, whether he just meant it as the leader or not. It is a sin for the spiritual brother, even though he is a leader, to call himself ‘father’. Even Peter was called ‘brother.’

Again, the Catholic Church became apostate when they left the way that Jesus taught.

The word pope means ‘father’, Jesus says not to call each other father.
The pope takes the seat of most importance; Jesus taught his disciples not to do that.
The popes wore extravagant robes and hats; Jesus speaks against that. The popes are bowed to and have their feet kissed; the Bible commands us not to do that.

God does not even know you unless you obey Him, see 1 Corinthians 8:3.

I am not Baptist; though, I have been to a Baptist Church. I do think they believe the Bible is their authority, even though I believe they have false doctrines, they believe the Bible is the final authority. As for things passed down for generations, we are not to have traditions of men. They are worthless, they even nullify the word of God. That is what the Bible says.
I hope you can stay in the group and debate. I will contact you soon if you are banned.

 

Paul never tells anyone to call him ‘father.’ Nowhere in the scriptures will you find that. Nowhere in the scriptures do you read that anyone called Paul ‘father.’
If I am a teacher in a school teaching algebra to a bunch of students, and they are being taught algebra for the first time, and I tell the class I am their father in Math, does that mean anyone is told to call me ‘father’? NO.

 

How does it sound like I am making it up? It is the truth. Paul, as a person who got the message before others, in this he was like a father for being before the others.

 

Show the scripture where Paul says, “Call me father.” Show the scriptures where anyone calls Paul “Father.” Please give those scriptures now or stop saying Paul did what he did not do.

Are you Catholic? You stand up for the Catholics. Therefore, if you are not a Catholic, and you want to stand up for them, at least find out how they obey Jesus in call no one father.

I have said Catholics should be allowed to debate here. So why act as if it is my fault that they are not allowed? By the way, there are Catholics here. They could answer the question how they obey, if they did obey.

That is a sin to think evil of me. I have not done anything except try to get others to see the Truth.

I was once a Catholic; it was my family’s life. I was in another false religion after that. Even after I was saved, the speaking in tongues crowd was trying to lead me astray, as was the Calvinist crowd. I wish there were no false doctrines. I am thankful for the people that spoke up to me about what they believed are false doctrines. I could have been angry and rude in return to those who spoke to me. I mean really now, what business was it to them what I believed? I could have thought they were nosey and jealous. I am glad I did not react to them that way though. Have a heart that wants to know God’s Truth. Have a kinder heart that is willing to listen to others.

 

I am not asking Baptists.

 

Find the scripture where Paul says call me ‘father’. Find that scripture or stop saying Paul went against Jesus’ teachings.
Find the scripture where anyone calls Paul ‘father’. Find that scripture or stop saying Paul went against Jesus’ teachings.