How do you feel about gun control?

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  1. Daniel David

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    Where do you stand?
     
  2. Mike McK

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    My personal belief is that as long as you're not a convicted felon and you've never been institutionalized for a mental illness, then you should be able to own any weapon you like and should be free to carry a handgun.

    As long as you're not a convicted felon and you pose no real threat to others, the government has no legitimate reason to know what sort of weapon you own and certainly none to regulate it.

    Mike

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  3. Johnv

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    I'm fine with gun control.

    I'm not fine with gun restriction.

    (I don't own one, BTW. I have children in the house. Statistics in my area show that a person is more likely to be injured/killed by the home weapon than other home invasion crimes... I'm not willing to take the risk.)
     
  4. Rev. G

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    gun control: hitting what you aim for. :D

    The 2nd Amendment permits the "right to carry and bear arms." I'm against all restrictions, except for the common-sense one (felons lose the right, etc.).
     
  5. Jim1999

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    A gun is designed for one purpose: to kill.

    I shoot very well with a camera, and no one dies.

    Cheers,

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    Yes, but if a criminal intent on harming your family breaks into your home a camera will not deter him nor defend them.

    The Scriptures show us that self-defense is a viable option. I doubt that anyone would argue this when the OT is considered. From the NT standpoint, have you considered that St. Peter still had his sword after following Jesus for three years? In fact, Jesus told his disciples that one sword is sufficient for them to have. He never rebukes them for having swords to defend themselves, or tells them to get rid of them.

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    Agree with the founders that private ownership of firearms is the final check against a tyrannous government. They feared government more than their neighbors... and were probably much wiser than most today.
     
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    Jim lives in Canada, so he doesn't have to worry about those things... :D
     
  9. rlvaughn

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    Our constitutional right to keep and bear arms should not be molested.
     
  10. Pete Richert

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    I don't have strong opionions one way or another, but I certainly wish that Maryland Sniper didn't own a gun. Let's all pray he gets caught and soon.
     
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    Hi,

    I agree that we should be allowed guns, although I can't have a gun because I'm English. :( However, many in this country argue that America has a lot of gun crime, and a lot of people killed by guns (more, they say, per head of population than most countries) because you're allowed to have guns. How would you answer these arguments? Also, there are many who use school-massacres, and this Washington sniper, to argue for gun restriction. How would you respond?

    It'll be a change getting American opinion on this! [​IMG]

    Thanks!

    Your friend and brother,

    Bartholomew
     
  12. Don

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    Bartholomew, answer the "school massacre" one with the event last week in Germany (man in a school holding the kids hostage). So it doesn't matter how many guns are available or legal.

    Look at your own stats in England. Who owns "registered" guns in England? The criminals?

    When you hear about gun-related crime in England, is it usually in conjunction with a legally-obtained, registered firearm?

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    "A sword's sole purpose is to kill."
    "A bow and arrow's sole purpose is to kill."
    "A club's sole purpose is to kill."

    The question posed is: Kill what? What's the motivation?

    I'm all for required firearms safety courses...I think everyone, whether they own a gun or not, ought to take one.
     
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    It has been well established that this does not refer to an unregulated right to own firearms at will. Rather, it refers to the keeping of a well-regulated malitia.

    Yes, the average person should be allowed to own a firearm.
    No, a person should not be allowed to own assault weapons.
    No, a person should not be allowed to strap on a piece when he goes down to the grocery store.
    No, a person should not be allowed to conceal a weapon.
    Yes, the "guns don't kill people, people do" is one of the most overused and meaningless cliches of all time.
     
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    It has been well established that this does not refer to an unregulated right to own firearms at will. Rather, it refers to the keeping of a well-regulated malitia.

    Yes, the average person should be allowed to own a firearm.
    No, a person should not be allowed to own assault weapons.
    No, a person should not be allowed to strap on a piece when he goes down to the grocery store.
    No, a person should not be allowed to conceal a weapon.
    Yes, the "guns don't kill people, people do" is one of the most overused and meaningless cliches of all time.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Well established by whom? Certainly not the authors of the Federalist Papers or numerous judges down through the years; nor by numerous state legislators, etc.
    The fact that you make weapons illegal does not make them inaccessible. Look at drugs.
    I think I'll keep carrying with the permission of my state legislature and my local police department.
     
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    All the guns in Texas and the death penalty to boot have not slowed down violent deaths in that state. (PS&gt; I am not trying to pick on Texas; I like Texans)

    It is also true that violence with a firearm is becoming a problem in certain areas of the UK. It can be explained along ethnical lines drawn in the cities, but I really don't want to go there. The police are giving some thought to wearing firearms these days.

    Canada is relatively safe these days, but we are slow and will catch up. We have a greater problem with drunken drivers......solution: to get us old folks off the roads...hahaha....seriously, they are cracking down on us.

    We do have 6 dogs: Great Dane, Golden Lab and 4 Beagles.....the big one's get your attention whilst the little one's take out your ankles.

    Cheers,

    Jim

    [ October 22, 2002, 09:44 PM: Message edited by: Jim1999 ]
     
  17. Pennsylvania Jim

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    Well, if someone attacks you, send me their picture.
     
  18. Don

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    "Guns don't kill people; people kill people" is overused, I agree 100%.

    But meaningless? Nah.

    Guns are used to kill people. Just as are knives, scissors, bricks, clubs, pokers, baseball bats, razor blades, box knives, ropes, fists, feet, and a whole slew more I can't even think of right now--but none of which are being considered for registration and regulation....
     
  19. Rev. G

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    Actually, since the conceal and carry permits have been allowed and with the death penalty in our state violent crime IS down. Violent crime is up in both the UK and in Australia, where gun control laws are very, very strict - the rise in crime has risen since the passage of these strict laws.

    Johnv:

    The 2nd Amendment having to do with the militia is well established? It was only "well established" when Bill Clinton was pushing the Brady Bill.

    Rev. G

    [ October 22, 2002, 10:50 PM: Message edited by: Rev. G ]
     
  20. go2church

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    Isn't this thread in the wrong place?
     

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