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Featured How do you read and interprete Paul in Romans 1:26-27?

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  1. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
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    All sin is against God, evil and wrong, but sexual sins are a particular bad lot, as jesus particpates with those doing them in their bodies in a special fashion, per Bible, and homosexual acts more perverse than "straight sex" ones!
     
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    Paul is warning the readers to be reminded of how God dealt with sin in the past and He will also deal with it in the future. He is calling the readers to be sure they are not taking God lightly about sin less they too be turned over to their sin and made to think they are safe when they are not. He can make people believe the lie if they oersits in their sin. 2thess:11

    Often times I hear someone say about a loved on that yes they are saved, but they are not living for the Lord. The bible warns about being deceived over such things. If we are not following the Lord we are not His.
     
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    Ain't nobody going to a smaller hell because their sin is more perverse. So who cares how perverse it is? You're dead set on damning people extra because of the "perversity" of their sin when in reality if God treated every one of our innermost thoughts the same way, we'd be in the same place if not forgiven.

    Why don't you focus all that energy on pointing folks to Christ instead of driving them away because you think their sin is so much more perverse than your own?

    I would venture that the mind of the average Christian goes to to some just as "perverse" places everyday but you're safely tucked behind your keyboard and proclaiming theirs to be more perverse while safely guarding your own secret perverse thoughts as just "other" sin.
     
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    that is my big concern reagrding Homosexuality as being seen as acceptable/condoned by God now, even with church among Christians, as God has not changed His position, and that be encouraging them to stay on as before, at least they will face certain chasitisment, at worst, only professing salvation, not actually having it!
     
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    Actually, 'this behavior' is not included as one of the seven abominations:

    16 There are six things which Jehovah hateth; Yea, seven which are an abomination unto him:
    17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood;
    18 A heart that deviseth wicked purposes, Feet that are swift in running to mischief,
    19 A false witness that uttereth lies, And he that soweth discord among brethren. Prov 6

    ...but neither is homophobic behavior... :)
     
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    Your bible doesn't have it in where Moses stated to the people that a man laying with another man, as if a woman, is detestable and an abomination in sght of God then?
     
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    What does your Bible have in It? From reading your posts, one would think it only included verses on homosexuality. :laugh:

    My Bible says:



    An abomination to the Lord is:

     
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    True sin is sin.

    However sin's consequence's vary.

    In the Law that is proven by the varying punishments for the offenses.

    In the NT:

    Luke 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

    HankD
     
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    there is a difference to the lord between natural and unnatural sinning, between murdering babies, and stealing neighbors newspaper!
     
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    Does the bible call all of them unnatural also?

    Are you aware that many within chrsitian community label homosexual deviate behaviour as acceptable and OK to God now?

    have you heard them also approvong rape/murder?

    seems JUST abortion and homosexuality now legit to many!
     
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    25 for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature:
    27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due. Ro 1

    Look at it closely oh one with many names, as it reads their sin was idolatry, the homosexuality was their recompense.
     
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    How about Pot.....ya think Colorado & Washington State Churches will now begin amending their stance on Pot now that its legal?
     
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    I believe God does. In the Old Testament certain sins were punishable by death.

    Why did the Northern Kingdom go into captivity never to return? Scripture tells us: Hosea 4:17. Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone
     
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    Does it have to when the principle of all sin being unnatural is presented?

    Does it have to say that Cain and Abel had sex with their sisters?

    Is Trinity mentioned?

    Scripture doesn't have to spell everything out. There wouldn't be a book large enough to hold it all. The principle is presented anc covers that ALL sin is unnatural as the original NATURAl creation was sinless.

    Are you aware that we do the same for gossips, gluttons, and the immodestly dressed?

    have you heard them also approvong rape/murder?

    Seems that way with gossiping, gluttony, greed, heterosexual lust, etc.
     
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    Great few verses; great question!



    Look, there is but one way to read and interpret these few verses [and BTW - I believe it is applicable to ALL sins, regardless of the kind or magnitude of the sin].

    I believe that there are at least 5 forms of sin: 1) Sin against the flesh [immorality, impurity, and sensuality]; 2) Sins against God [idolatry, using God's name in vain]; 3) Sins of the flesh against the spirit [such as sorcery, astrology, witchcraft]; 4) Sins against the Body of Christ [envy, divisiveness, strife, jealousy, anger, disputes, dissension, factions, gossip]; and 5) Sins of the flesh against ones own flesh [the party attitude of drinking and carousing, body piercing, tattoos, gluttony/greed, overeating]. SEE: Galatians 5:19-21.

    As we know, with all sins and all people, God will try to reach them, but as with those in Rome that Paul mentions, they believed themselves to be wiser, and in doing so, they were turned over to their OWN desires, to reap the results [destruction if they continue and fail to repent] of their actions!

    Anything else is what I call an exercise in spiritual gymnastics, and it is an exercise in futility to try and make the Word of God say something that it isn't saying ... which is why Paul shows that God had reached the breaking-point with some in Rome, where He was washing His hands of them; turning them over to the world of their own desires, lusts and thoughts ... probably hoping they may, like the prodigal son, come to their senses and return to Him before it's really too late.

    Like Jesus said in Matthew 10:13-15 (NLT) "If it turns out to be a worthy home, let your blessing stand; if it is not, take back the blessing. If any household or town refuses to welcome you or listen to your message, shake its dust from your feet as you leave. I tell you the truth, the wicked cities of Sodom and Gomorrah will be better off than such a town on the judgment day."

    There comes a time in our attempts to share the Gospel that we need to move on to those who will seriously listen.

    Look, the road to hell is WIDE, and traveled by more than a majority of the world's population. The path to eternity is narrow and traveled by few.

    It is evident when we start to include other Scriptures along with Romans 1:26-27 that we get a clearer picture of our duties and God's patience! There is only so much we can do. Shake the dust from your sandals, and move on down the road. God in turn will turn those who reject Him over to their own devices, judgement and wisdom! Sad, but reality!
     
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    Muder was singled out by the lord himself BEFORE the law was even given, as a mosthenious son, as one killed another human made in image of God!
     
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    You still refuse to acknowledge the bibilcal truth that Honosexuality is unnatrual, againstcreation of God for relationship among male/female!

    And again, point is that while individual christians can be gossips. overeaters, drinkers etc, there are NO demoniations/churches/minnistries set up to fefend those sins, unlike for homosexuality, as entire churches dedicated to make that sin legit, and written out of the bible!

    have you heard of the Queer james Bible now?
     
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