I was wondering if any of you could share what you have personally experienced at the hand of God for disobedience and going astray? Furthermore, examples of ways you have personally witnessed the hand of God punish others for straying and disobeying Him. This has long been an area that man does not want to discuss, and it is a difficult sermon topic too, as it seems to be an emotional and spiritual downer to talk about the chastisement of God towards the children, He sent His Son to die for! When I think of God's punishment, the story of Annanias, and Sapphira in Acts 5:1-10. The truth is, this was more of an execution than a punishment, but it does show that God deals swiftly with His Children when they mess up! I'm also reminded of the potter and the clay, and personally; I feel like a piece of clay that has been broken many times over my life, and remolded. Sometimes the breaking has nothing to do with punishment, just His desire to send us off in a new direction to be used differently than we thought, or in a direction He now felt more comfortable using us in! So what say you! BTW - Do any of you think Annanias, and Sapphira went to heaven, or not?