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How far is society wanting to go?

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Jailminister, Oct 7, 2003.

  1. Jailminister

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    No FCC Action Vs. Bono Over Naughty Word


    WASHINGTON (Hollywood Reporter) - The Federal Communications Commission decided that U2 singer Bono's utterance of an obscenity during this year's broadcast of the Golden Globe Awards did not constitute a violation of the nation's broadcast indecency rules.

    On Monday, the government agency's Enforcement Bureau rejected complaints by the Parents Television Council and others that Bono's use of the phrase "this is really, really f---ing brilliant" failed to meet the test for indecency. The bureau ruled that Bono's indiscretion was so "fleeting and isolated" that it did not run afoul of the rules.

    The commission defines indecent speech as language that, in context, depicts or describes sexual or excretory activities or organs in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards. As a threshold matter, the material aired during NBC's Golden Globes telecast doesn't fall into that category, the bureau ruled.

    "The word 'f---ing' my be crude and offensive, but, in the context presented here, did not describe sexual or excretory organs or activities," the bureau wrote. "Rather, the performer used the word 'f---ing' as an adjective or expletive to emphasize an exclamation. Indeed, in similar circumstances, we have found that offensive language used as an insult rather than as a description of sexual or excretory activities or organs is not within the scope of the commission's prohibition of indecent program content."


    Reuters/Hollywood Reporter





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    10/07/2003 01:23
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  2. Dr. Bob

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    Sad, but not unexpected.

    It will only get worse. :mad:
     
  3. dianetavegia

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    Jailminister, we were watching sports the other night and one of the players in the dug-out shouted the F--- You phrase. My T.V. Guardian can't block out live t.v. vulgarity and you'd think our families would be 'safe' watching a ball game.... but we've become so 'vaccinated' to vulgarity that most people won't even notice it.

    How very sad! Thankfully we are able to protect ourselves MOST of the time. I wish I could afford a T.V. Guardian for every t.v. in our house.

    Diane
     
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    Yes, Diane, I was so embarrassed on Saturday, Iowa defeated Michigan and the fans streamed onto the field and there was a mob, as the camera panned, there was a girl on someone's shoulders and she was holding a sign. As the camera reached it, the camera man immediately panned away but not before showing the world the low class of Iowa students as the sign read in giant letters, "F*** Michigan"
     
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    BTW, I just talked to the Athletic Director's office at Iowa, and they told me they have been looking at the tape of the game and they are actually looking for the girl holding the sign and that they are TRYING to develop a plan to avoid a repeat of that situation. So at least they are not just blowing it off.
     
  6. Mike McK

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    The broadcast booth at Veterans' Stadium is about sixty feet above the dugout and profanity from the dugout regularly bleeds through to the mic and makes it onto the air.

    Between Larry Bowa and Todd Pratt, it can get pretty salty.

    Friday night there was an exhibition between the Flyers and their AHL affiliate, the Phantoms (the Phantoms smoked the Flyers 10-6, by the way) and former NHL superstar, Keith Jones was the Phantoms' coach. Someone got the bright idea to put a mic on his tie. The announcers joked several times that he was saying so many interesting things but that they couldn't put any of it on the air because of the profanity.
     
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    Swear neither by heaven nor by earth..." The more society gets off profaning God, the more it will interject in the norm of speaking. I remember a college professor speaking to some college students and saying, "I thought you had a much broader vocabulary than that." when he overheard some students using profanity in ever other word.

    I suppose we best spend more time in the dictionary and less time listening to stand up comedians and Playboy magazine.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  8. I Am Blessed 24

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    Diane: Have you tried "Curse-Free TV"? Sometimes you can find it on ebay used. I think they cost about $30.00 new, but I'm not positive.

    It effectively blocks out profanity and even some words that are NOT profane, but sound like it to the system.
     
  9. Jailminister

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    If I may make a suggestion. I wrote an e-mail to the Federal Communication Commission (www.fcc.gov) and voice a complaint about many of their recent decisions to let things slide. If enough of us would do so, then maybe their policies would change.
     
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    There is no limit to how low people without Jesus will go. They will go as low as they are allowed. Everyday the limit on how low you can go gets lower.
     
  11. blackbird

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    Do ya'll remember the guys name that "mouthed off??" Team he played for? Jersey number? Player or Manager?---write a note to the team OWNER and tell them what you heard and then that you will not patronize the team anymore---until the OWNER has a friendly discussion with the offensive manager/player!

    Thats what I would do! You write a note to the player and he'll just "HA-HA" all over you on his way to the bank with his check----you write a note to the OWNER---and player gets no check!! See what I mean?

    Blackbird
     
  12. Mike McK

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    In the case I cited above, it was Larry Bowa and Todd Pratt.

    I can't complain about something like that for a couple of reasons.

    First of all, what they said, they said from the dugout and it was not meant to go out onto the air. They shouldn't be penalized for something that happens in their inner sanctum.

    Second, I understand what it's like to be caught up in the heat of battle and let your emotions get the better of you. I can't criticize someone else for doing the same things I've done.

    Third, this is the whole reason we hired these two guys: for their emotion. For their aggresive attitude.

    Fourth, when other teams have drug addicts and wife beaters and guys who are jerks to the fans, the guys on the Phillies are, with two execptions good role models (and yes I know Darren Daulton was just arrested again), so I don't think I could boycott them for just a few bad words.
     
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    There is no excuse for profanity, especially when you are in the public eye (and I think playing in a national sporting event is public).

    Comparative righteousness doesn't mean anything. If I shoplift, the cops aren't going to excuse me because the other guy they caught was stealing more.

    No excuses. It is sin, and it is vulgar, and it is wrong. Makes me glad that we got rid of the one-eyed monster a while back.

    In Christ,
    Trotter
     
  14. Mike McK

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    Does this mean I have to get rid of my "GySgt R. Lee Ermey Motivational Action Figure"?
     
  15. Dr. Bob

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    In our (most of us) lifetime we have seen the media - television, movies, magazines, news - in a downward spiral.

    Far distance for ONE GENERATION to travel. Remember Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore sleeping in different beds because in 1960 you could not show a couple in the same bed together?

    Just not that long ago . . .
     
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    People use dirty words on t.v. and you all are genuinely concerned and offended, that they don't get blocked (allthough everybody exactly knows what words are being blocked every single time). My mom is right after all. Americans are weird. [​IMG]
     
  17. dianetavegia

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    Mioque, I have T.V. Guardian. My youngest child is almost 9 and he has never heard most cuss words. In fact, words we consider cuss words have been used openly by some of the youth on this board.

    Blackbird, It was a Braves player in the dug-out and I 'think' it was Giles but wasn't looking at the t.v. when it was shouted so I cannot say that for a fact.

    Diane
     
  18. dianetavegia

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    BTW... Mioque, my son has NEVER heard a cuss word from me!
     
  19. blackbird

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    The thread is titled----How Far is Society Wanting to Go"-----

    Well, the way I figure---when Adam and Eve fell in the garden---they fell all the way, didn't they??

    Society wants to go all the way back to the fall! Of course, unlike Adam and Eve(who were convicted of their fall and hid themselves from God)---society wants to strutt their fall in the wide open!! They want to get in the face of God struttin' their fall!!

    Brother David
     
  20. following-Him

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    Just how much further can we fall? It really bothers me, particularly when I hear some of the things some church people say and do. There is a local rev. here who has just left his wife and family for someone in the congregation. The Ten Commandments mean nothing to a lot of people today. There are those in the church who distort the Word to excuse/justify (don't know if that is right words but i think you know what i mean) immoral behaviour. Sadly, life is cheap. So how much further can society fall, I dread to think. [​IMG]

    Sheila
     
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