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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Salty, Mar 23, 2011.

  1. Salty

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    While I feel for the little girl, it's a little ridiculous. It isn't as though they're tying her down and forcing peanuts down her throat.

    My sister was just diagnosed with diabetes. If we go out to eat, am I supposed to demand that everybody eat diabetic-healthy foods?
     
  3. just-want-peace

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    This is one of the many reasons any, ANY, ANY, law should have a sunset clause.
    *If it's found to be performing differently than anticipated - it can be amended.
    *If it's found to be worse that what it was to cure - it can be ignored & not revived after the "Sun sets".
    *If its found to be doing what it is supposed to, it can be renewed.

    Most laws have far more unintended consequences that hurt, than problems actually solved, IMHO!! (At least the ones passed in the last 50-75 years)
     
  4. Salty

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    So true - so very, very true.:tear:

    Salty

    PS, also, all your other points were excellent
     
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    I think some of us don't realize that certain children have life endangering reactions to merely being in the same room with peanut butter.

    First hand experience:

    AT our first "class day" for my children's homeschool group one of the crafts for the younger set involved peanut butter. One of the children an older group, who is highly allergic to peanut butter happened to walk through the room (BIG room that connects the other classrooms) and ended up with a reaction so bad they had to use his epi pen on the spot (the kid had just enough time to get to his mother) and spent the rest of the day and night in the hospital being treated.

    In our case it was bad communication. The boy wouldn't have been brought to class day if his mother had known and the younger teacher now knows not to use peanut butter out in the main room!

    These allergies are absolutely horrible and cause many disruptions in the life of the children affected. Does it really hurt the rest of us to eat our pb&j sandwiches at home rather than at school? Have some compassion people!
     
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    I'm the first one to say something when people are going overboard to deal with disabilities. In this case, though, I don't see anything that is overboard. From the article, the only thing I could glean was that the kids in that class are required to wash their hands when they get to school and when they come back from lunch. Is washing hands really such a big deal?

    All the other allegations (such as peanut butter being banned) were not true.

    So, what's the big deal here? Isn't washing hands a good thing?
     
  7. Salty

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    The article stated it took 30 minutes for all the kids to wash hands - and that time was coming out of classroom instruction.

    Under the ADA - schools MUST make accommodations for any disability. It is going to get to the point that everyone will have some kind of disability, no matter how ridiculous they might be.
    And then add on religion. Will the schools have to make time for Muslim students to pray to Mecca, for a interpreter for the deaf, for an atheist to have a celebration on April 1st?...
    Where will it all end?
     
  8. matt wade

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    No, the article didn't state that it took 30 minutes. One parent speculated that it "probably" took 30 minutes.

     
  9. just-want-peace

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    Common sense has to come in somewhere, does it not?

    Don't remember the figures, but a EPA illustration makes the point.

    In the 70's(?) "xyz" emissions were to be cut from factory smokestacks by 30%, and this cost MFG ~ 1.5 mil per large factory.
    Next came the requirement to cut these same emissions by an added 12%. This cost these same factories an added 2.4 mil per factory.
    Well the EPAers still needed to justify their existence, so late 80's an added 5% cut in emissions was required, costing another 5.7 mil per factory.

    Now, like I said I don't remember any of the details, but this is specifically what you can expect if they are successful in passing the infamous CO2 legislation now under discussion(Pending?)!

    This is the same as accommodating a persons infirmities by the public - somewhere the law of diminishing returns comes into play, and if your job depends on getting legislation for specific "SOCIAL ILLS", then you can be sure that your gonna find more & more ways to accomplish that goal.

    That means you start with making all public buildings accessible by wheel-chair; so far so good. A logical and noble goal.
    A few years later congress is wondering just why you still need to be on the payroll, so you then decide that any private business that builds and/or renovates must also have WC access. (Whew good for at least 2 more years now).
    Same situation with budget comes again so now ---------.

    See where this is heading? Before long you'll be guaranteed, by law, that you can have a special reserved seat in any restaurant if you can prove (?) that your bunion will not let you walk over 50 ft with out pain.

    OK, sarcasm off, but surely you can see where this obsession with accommodating each and every physical anomoly can lead in a nanny gov't!

    All I ask for is a little common sense and consider what any new law CAN LEAD TO by hungry lawyers and greedy clients.
     
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    > The boy wouldn't have been brought to class day if his mother had known and the younger teacher now knows not to use peanut butter out in the main room!

    Ten years from now the kid applies for a job at Boeing? No one on the flight line can bring PBandJ for his lunch?

    Or does the kid collect welfare for the next 50 years because he can't work a normal job?
     

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