How fat does a person have to be to be a sinner?

So you stand by misconceptions and lack of facts, and throw out real medical evidences?
Based on what?
Because I am sure doctors would liek to know.
You can't debate it with real true evidence so you run.

 

I'm done too. everyone knows that poor eating habits and lack of excercise = many of the health problems mentioned above and being overweight etc.
But hey what do doctors and fitness people know ?

You don't see too many fat athletes, even the football players who are big block but they don't do the running.

 

Your thinking I am being judgemental is in itself being judgemental. Don't you see how silly what you just said sounded ?

 

I too agree he came off wrong and I had a hard time reading all of his letter which i didn't. I do agree a lot of people in America are overweight due to wrong eating habits and lack of excercise.

 

It's not quite that simple. Simple carbohydrates will get converted to fat and stored. Complex carbohydrates are much more difficult to store. You can eat less than your daily caloric requirements, and have extra fat. Your body may save the fat, and take nutrients from your muscles and bones.

You're also forgetting malnutrition. A fair number of obese persons are malnourished. How is that possible? Because calories alone does not equate to the needed amounts of vitamins, protien, etc. There is also a fair number of muscular and thin people who are malnourished for the same reason. Many people don't know how to eat balanced foods, thy just think "total calories". Bad idea.

 

I struggled with my weight for many years. At about 35 my gall bladder got dieseased so badly it caused a terrible infection in my liver. They had to gut me like a deer. I'm just short of 5'11 and weighed about 235 lbs. When I recovered I said I get into shape so I took up cycling. I was cycling around 3000 miles a year and lost down to 170. I'm 46 now and took up weight training around 6 years ago to go with cycling. My weight is about 190 now but I bench 275. I know whats it's like to struggle to keep it off and my sympathy goes out to all who have to fight it.

 

You put me to shame.

Johnv - 190lbs and bench presser of 80lbs

 

You should get Arnold to help you out brother!

 

Interestingly, one of the Governator's goals is the elimination of obesity in the public school system. He's ordered the removal of all junk food items from vending machines.

Not surprisingly, the teacher's unions are fighting this. It turns out that they get a kickback (oops, I meant "license fee") from the junk food vendors.

 

Interestingly, one of the Governator's goals is the elimination of obesity in the public school system. He's ordered the removal of all junk food items from vending machines.

Not surprisingly, the teacher's unions are fighting this. It turns out that they get a kickback (oops, I meant "license fee") from the junk food vendors. </font>[/QUOTE]I think Arnold is on to something there. Being the governer of California is probably one hardest jobs in the world.

 

There's an abundance of big labor union interest. He's decided to take them on head first.

 

Actually now, it wouldn't be being fat that is a sin at all.....thats just the possible result of the actual sin.

Isn't gluttony the sin? Being so involved in food that it becomes the thing we indulge in constantly for comfort, for distraction?

Does this make sense?

 

Gluttony is the sin b/c it takes the focus off of God and onto food. I have also seen some skinny gluttons as well.

 

Actually, I would drop 8-10 lbs every time I played a hockey game. I played until I was 32, then had to stop. When I started mountain biking competitively, I weighed 180 lbs. I gained 20 pounds my first summer, all in my legs.

I never really lifted weights, because it would inhibit my wrist, making it difficult for me to play guitar. I have always been athletic, even in my most drugged years. I have been blessed with a good exercise ethic, I guess.

Bapmom, I agree with your post.

 

A lot of you guys know that I was in a bad car crash back in the spring. ((By the way, this is the second serious accident I've been in in my life.))

Because I couldn't move for three months, other than just to walk short distances, I put on eighty pounds. (that's why so many of you commented that you saw me online so often...that was about all I could do for recreation) And this is after a lifetime of being pretty atheletic and in great shape.

There are times when I might have been twenty pounds or so overweight, but because of my large frame, you never would guess.

Now, I'm freakin' huge.

It's only been in the last month, month and a half that I've really gotten my life back and I've got to tell you, it's a heck of a lot harder to take it off than it is to put it on.

I promise, I will never judge a fat person again.

 

You're not fat, your just a bit short for your weight.

 

I'd have to be nine feet tall.

On the other hand, I'm only fourty pounds on the moon.