How God sees His own Purpose - Isa. 4:11

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    I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. - Isa. 46:11b

    Sorry about the wrong text in the heading. It should read "Isa. 46:11."

    God does not view his eternal purposed as already accomplished although he views it as something that will be accomplished and thus certain.

    If he viewed it as already accomplished, fulfilled, then the idea of "predestinated" and "predestination" is pure fiction and nonsense.

    God views his eternal purpose as something that must come "to pass" and something He must yet "do it."

    Hence, there is no substantive organic eternal REALITY in regard to God's eternal purpose. Nothing in God's purpose has SUBSTANTIVE REALITY but only CONTEMPLATIVE reality. There is no actual substantive reality of spiritual union between the actual nature and being of God with the elect. There is only CONTEMPLATIVE reailty by divine PURPOSE but not by divine FULFILLMENT or accomplishment.

    Actual spiritual union between God and his elect is something that God must CREATE in time and space (Eph. 2:10) and is called being "quickened" or the reversal of being "alienated from life of God" (Eph. 4:18) so that the elect are brought into actual spiritual union with God by a creative act of the Holy Spirit called "born again" or "quickened" or "regeneration."

    If God saw his own eternal purpose as already accomplished he could never utter the words found in Isaiah 46:11. He could never refer to his purpose as something that must needs "come to pass" or something yet future "will do it."
     
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    from his prespective; everything has alreadyb happened, and he knows the end result, its that to us and to have it actually happen to us, must occur in our space and time, as God exists outside that!
     
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    What scripture says that ?

    Again this is for you and your low views of God Ps 50:21

    21 These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes.
     
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    Let the reader take note that SBM is calling God an outright liar. God says concerning His own eternal purpose that it is not fulfilled in his own sight but something that predestination only makes certain to yet "come to pass" and something He must yet "do" rather than as SBM demands is something already done. SBM is simply calling God a liar!

    Something that must still "come to pass" and something that must yet be "done" is something that has not already happened and it only takes two grains of common sense to realize that but SBM is spiritually blind to what is obvious to anyone who can read English.
     
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    Again this is for you and your low views of God Ps 50:21

    21 These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes.
     
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    Again, notice that SMB is PITTING scripture against scripture and calling God an outright liar as SBM's false doctrine cannot harmonize with God's own words about His own eternal purpose - you read Isaiah 46:11 and see for yourself.
     
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    I already explained why I say this applies to you :

    Again this is for you and your low views of God Ps 50:21

    21 These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes.
     
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    As I previously stated, you don't know what you are talking about and you are in direct contradiction to God's own words about his eternal purpose and implementation of it.

    However, you are a heretic and a heretic cannot receive correction, so, I have said all I am going to say on this subject.
     
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    I already explained why I say this applies to you :

    Again this is for you and your low views of God Ps 50:21

    21 These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes.
     

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