How many KJVO's are left at the BB?

I, too, am a baptist and I love the KJB. You speak as if it is wrong of me, a baptist, to love that book.

And yet, it is YOUR crowd which says the KJB crowd is hateful? I believe that statement saying that KJB believers reject God's word is Hateful. I believe the statement PRAYING for the KJB believers to be blotted from memory is hateful.
I believe when one person wishes demise upon another; he has stepped out of the christian world and into the secular. I believe it was Jesus who said we ought to pray for others, even for they who would oppose us. I DO NOT believe Jesus condoned calling down "fire from heaven" upon they who oppose our point of view. I am not saying you SPECIFICALLY did this. But your post is reeking with the same sentiment.
I use the KJB. I believe it to be the only valid and accurate Bible we have today (In English). That being said; I also believe that if you CHOOSE another or a multitude of other versions in your quest to OBEY the prime directive of ALL believers, (make disciples) the more power to you. May God richly bless this endeavor.
BUT when your crowd attacks the people who would adhere to ONE Bible, then you have left the christian world and stepped into the secular, for we are all aware of the tactics of the secular world.
I am not, REPEAT NOT! condoning the same behavior of some in the KJB camp. In fact, I would also condemn that attitude in them.
In His service;
Jim

 

Anti-Alexandrian
What are the: Jesuit Hesychian texts?
I have never heard of that one before.

mjwegs42
"I think a bible belevier needs to root themselves in the KJV. The KJV is enerrant, thus should be used for all study, all memorized scripture, and most important all teaching!"
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I hope you, Michelle and Terry don't mind if us foreigner biblebelievers stick to something a little closer to our first language (whatever that may be).

 

A strange thing...I've noticed all foreign biblebelievers that post here, can speak English, or at least write it.

 

Well, perhaps I shouldn't have said "a strange thing"...it's just an "observation".

 

Terry_Herrington asked:

Now that so many "Bible believers" have left

This Bible believer is still here.

Or do you mean those people who claim you can't really "believe" the Bible unless you also buy into the nonsense that only the KJV has some special blessing from God that other English Bibles don't? I find it odd that the ones who think they have the exclusive claim on the term "Bible believer" define themselves by defending a doctrine that was never found in any Bible.

Fortunately - or better yet, Providentially - their numbers seem to be decreasing. Amen, praise God, and hallelujah!

 

Ha! I suppose it wouldn't do them much good to post here if they couldn't write English!

 

av1611jim
"I use the KJB."
"
And so does doc Bob (you know the guy you are adressing) a lot of the time.

"I believe it to be the only valid and accurate Bible we have today (In English)."
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That seems to be a peculiar notion, but I don't mind. Bob does though.

 

KJV1611 is the first Bible I go to. I find that people are loyal to the version that saved them. I am no exception. I do love my NIV, but for some reason that lcassic KJV1611 fits me like a pair of comfortable shoes at times.

 

I do not think Dr. Bob is implying this at all. he said, "Thankfully, we have MANY who use and love the KJV as a good translation."

I would agree with you here. Had a KJVO said "MV users reject God's Word," it would have been deleted post haste.

I believe Dr. Bob was referring to the KJVO philosophy that he's adamantly opposed to, and not those fellow Christian who hold to that philosophy.

This statement sets you apart from the radical element of KJVOnlyism. It is my position as well.

To be fair, both "sides" must admit that they go on the offense at times. KJVOs do attack the MVs and those that would use them; MVers will attack those that believe that the KJV is the inspired Word of God preserved in the English language. More times than not, all KJVOs are lumped into the same group.

No argument here. I believe the overwhelming majority of KJVO would feel this way as well.

 

GrannyGumbo
"A strange thing...I've noticed all foreign biblebelievers that post here, can speak English, or at least write it."
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I don't know, I think that the English of brother Baptistas is atrocious. I admire him for being here anyhow.
I may seem to be reasonably fluent to you Granny, but trust me I am much more eloquent in Dutch. People pay me money to write articles about complex subjects in Dutch. Nobody in his right mind would ask me to write the same articles if they have to be written in English.

 

I guess I'm not really KJVO - I only use it about 99% of the time.

 

I do not think that anyone would take an issue with this statement, "I believe it [KJV] to be the only valid and accurate Bible we have today (In English)." I believe the problem that others have is when you go a step further and begin to dictate the Bible that others should use. If an MV user would criticize one for this belief, then they are no better than the KJVO who would criticize them for their belief to the contrary.

I have to answer to God for what I believe and what I do. Everyone else on this board has to as well. I think we would all be better off if we left it at that and this forum became a place to solely discuss translational issues. The version debate will not be won or lost any time soon.

 

Pastor_Bob
"I do not think that anyone would take an issue with this statement, "I believe it [KJV] to be the only valid and accurate Bible we have today (In English).""
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Tell that to the members of a translation committee that has poored blood, sweat and tears into a new English Bible translation and watch them go ballistic.

 

Noble thoughts, Pastor Bob, but I don't think that's gonna happen any time soon. I've seen other boards set up to discuss translational issues only, with no versions debates allowed, and they became wastelands(no posts) within a month. The devil has done his work well in starting & spreading the false KJVO doctrine among Christians, and it aint gonna go away too quickly.

 

GrannyGumbo said "A strange thing...I've noticed all foreign biblebelievers that post here, can speak English, or at least write it."

That's not really strange at all. How many Swedish or Japanese discussion boards do you participate on?

 

Do any of you really, really, really, use the KJV 1611 edition?


From:
http://www.bibleandscience.com/bible/kjv.htm

NOTE: This is not an endorsement of the general views on that site.

 

If a committee poured blood, sweat, and tears into a book supporting the theory of evolution, I would still tell them what I believe about the issue. The point is not, "Do I agree with the statement?" But rather, "Will I allow him to have his own opinion on the matter?"

 

Pastor_Bob said:

I do not think that anyone would take an issue with this statement, "I believe it [KJV] to be the only valid and accurate Bible we have today (In English)." I believe the problem that others have is when you go a step further and begin to dictate the Bible that others should use.

On the contrary. "I like the KJV best" would be a preference claim. But "the KJV is the only valid Bible we have in English" is not a preference claim. It is a truth claim. Therefore, it is implicitly binding upon all.

Since it is a false truth claim, it is offensive whether the weasel words "I believe" are tacked onto it or not. Said weasel words only compound the offense by committing a category error in addition to the factual error.


[NOTE: There was no editing performed on this post. The post reads as the author wrote it.

[ September 14, 2004, 11:35 AM: Message edited by: Pastor_Bob ]

 

Case in point: I strongly disagree with your assessment of this situation, but I fully support your privilege to have this view.

 

I have been know to do so. 14th century editions as well.

But, no, I am not KJVO.

HankD