How Many Resurrections In Revelation?

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How many resurrections in Revelation?

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  1. Darrell C

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    Simple question, let's see how simple the answers are.

    I would ask that in this thread there be no reference to any extra biblical source whatsoever. Answers are to be taken from Scripture alone. We are discussing the singular question of the OP alone.

    God bless.
     
  2. OldRegular

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    Jesus Christ had already raised Himself from the dead. He is the FIRST RESURRECTION and only Resurrection to date. The Second Resurrection, and the LAST RESURRECTION, is first described in John 5:28, 29 in the Words of Jesus Christ, as follows:

    John 5:28, 29
    28. Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
    29. And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.


    Of course in John 6 Jesus Christ speaks of this Resurrection occurring at the Last Day, as follows:

    John 6:39. And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

    John 6:40. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    John 6:44. No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

    John 6:54. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.


    In the above Scripture Jesus Christ is talking about the resurrection of the Saints, the "true believers" at the LAST DAY, the Resurrection of John 5:28, 29, the Second and Last Resurrection!


    The resurrection that Jesus Christ talks about in John 5:28, 29 above is shown again at the sound of the Seventh and Last Trumpet in Revelation

    Revelation 11:15-19
    15. And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
    16. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
    17. Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
    18. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
    19. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.


    Verse 15, above, is a restatement in part of that which the Apostle Paul wrote in:

    1 Corinthians 15:20-28
    20. But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
    21. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
    22. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
    23. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
    24. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
    25. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
    26. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
    27. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
    28. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

    Revelation 11:15. The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.


    Referring back to Revelation 11:18 above we see mention of the judgment, both of the servants of God, the Saints, and then of the unbeliever:

    Revelation 11:18. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    We are shown a similar scene in

    Revelation 20:11-15
    11. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
    12. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
    13. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
    14. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
    15. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


    Anyone who attempts to understand the Book of Revelation as a chronological record of events is doomed to failure in understanding its message. That message is that the Saints, the "true believers", all the redeemed of all time, emerge triumphant over Satan and Evil through Jesus Christ our LORD!
     
  3. revmwc

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    Jesus is not the only one who has been resurrected we see, Matthew 27:52-53,
    52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
    53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

    So these were part of the first resurrection. But the OP says in Revelation.

    While it is not expressed as such in Revelation 4 the 24 elders represent the resurrection of the Church saints as well as those who are alive and remain.

    Revelation 20 verse 4 coupled with verse 6, the resurrection of the Tribulation Saints take place.
    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

    Then we see the final resurrection of the unbelievers in Revelation 20.

    11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
    12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
    13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
    14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
    15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

    Thus there are 3 total. 2 are part of the first which started with Christ and those seen in Matthew 27:52-53, then the church and finally the saints of the Tribulation.
     
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    Without going through it but just thinking about it:
    I see the Resurrected Christ in chapter one: The Alpha and Omega.
    I see the Resurrection of Two Witnesses in chapter 11.
    I see the Resurrection of believers (the rapture), in the first resurrection, ch. 20
    I see the Resurrection of unbelievers (the GWT), in the 2nd resurrection, ch. 20.

    That is four.
     
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    There is nothing in Scripture that indicates these people had resurrection bodies and did not return to the grave. The passage I quote from 1 Corinthians 15 indicates that they were not resurrected.

    I read the OP

    That is nonsense and you pre-trib-rapture -ready-dispensationalists crow about literal interpretation. That passage speaks specifically of John, no one else. Trying to make this the so-called-"snatching away" of the Church is eisegesis at its very worst and beyond that it is silly!

    John saw souls, not resurrection bodies.

    There is only one more resurrection to come, that in John 5:28, 29. I have shown that from Scripture! You also might try to explain away the words LAST DAY that Jesus Christ used in HIS promise to "true believers"!

     
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    So oldregular your answer according to the OP should be none since you see no resurrections in Revelation.
     
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    I missed the ones for the two witnesses.
     
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    What about all the believers that died during the "mythical earthly millennial kingdom"!
     
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    You need to take reading comprehension.
     
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    No believer dies in the kingdom. It says they live for the whole of the 1000 years physically alive.

    Except those who reject Christ, Isaiah 65:20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

    The child shall die an hundred years old, is the one who rejects Christ in the Kingdom. The sinner accursed at 100 is the believer in the Millennial who go back into sin and refuses to confess. Those who die in the Millennial will be unbelievers and they will be resurrected at the time of the Great White throne at the end of Chapter 20, along with those who at end align with satan and are destroyed.
     
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    Reading comprehension oldregular said "There is only one more resurrection to come, that in John 5:28, 29. I have shown that from Scripture! You also might try to explain away the words LAST DAY that Jesus Christ used in HIS promise to "true believers"!"

    Therefore your answer to the OP should be there are none in the book of Revelation. The OP says "How Many Resurrections In Revelation?"
     
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    Where????Oh Where????
     
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    What about them? Is that question germane to the OP?
    If not, then it doesn't need an answer at this time.
     
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    Revelation 20 verse 4, Revelation 20:4 - KJV – And I saw (5627) thrones, and they sat (5656) upon them, and judgment was given (5681) unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded (5772) for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped (5656) the beast, neither his image *, neither had received (5627) his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived (5656) and reigned (5656) with Christ a thousand years.

    The Greek for Lived is "zao" "to live, breathe, be among the living (not lifeless,not DEAD)"

    Isaiah 65:21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
    22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
    23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
    24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
    25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

    This too will be Kingdom but this too is high jacking the OP.
     
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    Ridiculous! I asked for Scripture to support your assertion that believers did not die during this "earthly millennial reign" and you post the above. You previously have claimed that these are the resurrected believers!:BangHead: They can't die again don't you know!

    Nothing there states that believers do not die during the so-called-earthly-millennial reign!:laugh:
     
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    You really should not take Scripture out of context!

    Isaiah 65:17-24
    17. For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
    18. But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
    19. And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
    20. There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
    21. And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
    22. They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
    23. They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD, and their offspring with them.
    24. And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
    25. The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent’s meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.


    Please note what verse 17 states!
     
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    Let me first apologize to the one who started the OP for the high jacking that has taken place.

    I have never stated that it was just those resurrected from the Tribulation who will sit on thrones, or maybe what I said was not understood. Those on the thrones and those who live with Christ in the 1000 year reign are the church who as I have stated came back with Christ as the army in Revelation 19. They are those who were resurrected from the Tribulation and Old Testament Saints and they are also those who survived the Tribulation alive and are taken into the 1000 year reign of Christ. We know that the 144,000 Jews are alive because we are told they were sealed and could not be touched.

    All Saints of all time will reign with Him.
     
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    Verse 17 was not ignored. God said that He would accomplish that and He does after the Tribulation and after the Kingdom. Revelation 21 makes that really clear, but the reign of Christ on earth is seen in verses 20 - 25. For in Revelation 21 and 22 we are told of the New Jerusalem coming down and it even says the tree of life will be in the midst of the rivers in that city and people will come and eat of the Tree of life and the leaves are for the healing of the nations all after the 1000 year reign, Scripture is very clear on that.
     
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    Double Post!
     
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    Yes it is. You quoted verses 21-25 to show that there is no death during the so-called earthly millennial reign. That passage certainly does not apply to the millennial reign.
     
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