How many will apologize?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Pastor Larry, Nov 3, 2008.

  1. Pastor Larry

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    Will all of you who declared that Palin violated ethics now stand up and admit you were wrong? Will your apologies be as loud and as frequent as your attacks?
     
  2. donnA

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    of course not.
     
  3. JustChristian

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    You have to admit the timing is suspicious. Also, I don't see how a report by an independent investigator overrides the finding of the Alaska legislature committee.
     
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    There was no reason to believe the first report. It was political in nature. This is an independent investigation.

    The Alaska legislature, as was pointed out numerous times had no authority to find an ethics investigation. I swear you only read what you want to. Anything that doesn't fit your preconceived notions you simply ignore.

    Here you have two people who have routinely attacked Sarah Palin about this and who, when confronted with the evidence that she was not guilty of ethics violations, refuse to admit they were wrong. That is unfortunately all too typical.
     
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    You call a republican appointed board independent? If you say so but like I said before, it's a matter of what the legislative body decides to do. They can proceed with impeachment, take it to the courts or just let it go. It's really all up to them.

    It does show how wet behind the ears Palin was to agree to the investigation, agreeing to cooperate and not having legal representation. She knows better now.

    Oh, and by the way, Palin gave the original board power when she agreed to the investigation. Also, the legislature can convene a board if they so choose. They don't need her permission. And it is a republican controlled legislative body.
     
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    The legislative committee was dominated by Republicans.
     
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    Mat 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
    Mat 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
    Mat 5:36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
    Mat 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
     
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    I'm not always this smart.....
    But smart people know better than to rush to judgement based upon a few news reports..... because not all reports are true. Neither are all judgements made by people who already have a stake in the outcome, or a coveteous bias which jeapordizes their ability to be honest and impartial. Many innocent people have had their reputations, or their credibility, or their opportunities restricted or have otherwise been martyred on the pages of public opinion.

    Governor Palin is a breathe of fresh air unlike the staleness of Washington. That she has so many critical of her on such trivial points like her 'folksiness' or her wardrobe.... just shows how little the media really cares about real issues: and its a credit to any Christian, when their beliefs and high profile spawns such conflict. God may bless some with the favor of the masses.... but Jesus has promised as he comforts us that in this world we will have tribulation but we should be of good cheer for he has overcomed the world.
     
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    Typical....:tonofbricks:
     
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    There can be no question this is the reason they hate her so much. They want the same old corrupt, country club politics.
     
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    Of course liberals want the same old corrupt country club politics! It goes so well with their liberal corrupt country club churches!
     
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    The devil is also the accuser of the brethern; yet here we are on a 'Christian' forum, exercising no caution or carefulness in what we say to each other?

    You dare to judge a brother when you yourself have mocked God,

    and disrespected and 'humanized' God by inferring that God has a political party,

    and you equate the killing of the unborn or new born who have no choice to the death of soldiers who had a choice to join the military or not:

    who by their choice committed their trust to the command of others knowing full well they would have no choice in going to war.... but their choice is to bear arms and that means a willingness to kill the enemy as defined by leadership.

    Judas also had a judgement when he judged Mary who annoited Jesus' feet with expensive perfume;
    how her perfume should be used 'to help the poor'
    but the scriptures called him a thief.....
    just like you defend taking the prosperity which God has blessed the diligence and hard work of his people,
    and justify giving it to the government for "spreading of the wealth' lies and propaganda.

    Yes, Judas 'sold' Jesus for 30 pieces of silver. Though he was counted among the 12, there remained no hope for him. He sold his soul and made no repentance.

    If we differ in political positions, we should still be kindly entreating each other instead of being so venomous.

    Pastor Larry asserted you read only what you want to.
    I recently started a thread and you were among the first responders: In your own words you admitted to not getting past the title of the article..... but you exercised your judgement to post an opinion without first considering the evidence. You have already affirmed that the statement Pastor Larry said is true whether of not you like the way he said it. But now you would judge him instead of proving you've changed or that he was wrong. If he has offended God then that is between him and God.... but if he has correctly made a statement to you regarding yourself and your own behavior..... then defend yourself or correct yourself.

    I feel troubled by your position and am concerned for what seems to be a blindness on your understandings.
     
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    Hate is a strong word, I just don't think she is ready to lead this country.

    Someday, maybe, today, no way...
     
  14. donnA

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    The vp does not lead this country, the POTUS does.
     
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    The VP has to be ready to step in if something happens to the POTUS. I don't feel she is ready to be in that position.
     
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    I wasn't mocking God, I was mocking those Christians who have sold out the church for "a mess of porage." The response I made without getting past the title was with regards to an article which described Obama as a Fuhrer. Let's see. The good Christians on this board have called him the Anti-Christ, the Fuhrer, a socialist,a Marxist and a Muslim. Don't you think this has been just a little extreme? No one has called Sen. McCain or Gov. Palin any of these slanderous names. But somehow its OK for you because Obama is a Democrat. Let me give you a clue. It's not OK. Using slanderous, demeaning ways of addressing the oposing candidate undermines the democratic process and does harm to the Church.

    Abortion is a significant issue but not the only issue. In fact abortion is part of a larger issue called The Sanctity of Life. I believe that God considers all human life to be precious. That includes unborn babies but also includes the victims of violence including those killed in an unjust war. Iraquis are human beings too. You don't seem to accept that statement. It seems to make you mad that I don't seen any difference in aborting a baby and killing a 3 year old child in an unjust war. You can choose to think that way but I don't agree with you.

    My greatest concern is that the far right evgelical Christians have done great harm to Christ's church by combining religion and Republican politics. I support the church's speaking out on moral issues but I don't support the church aligning itself with a party or a candidate. How is the church going to be successful in evangelizing Democrats if they automatically consider all Democrats to be non-Christians. What Democrat would want to join such a church?

    The Democrats have always been supportive of providing food, shelter, and medical care to the poor and disabled. Republicans wrongefully call these handouts. Well, President Clinton made changes in the wefare law to require people to work who were able to do so. There really aren't many "welfare freeloaders left at all." And yet, Republicans don't want to help these people. Why? The Bible says that whenever we help the poor we are doing it unto Christ.

    This tradition of helping people, opposition to the Viet Nam war after Johnson and the Iraq war and the complete lack of any real action to go with the anti-abortion Republican rhetoric is why I became a Democrat. How much have either McCain or Palin emphasized opposition to abortion during the campaign? What plans have they laid out to make a real difference? On the contrary, both candidates have said that it's a state's rights issue and the federal government shouldn't get involved. They would have done nothing much like their Republican predessors, Ronald Reagan, GHW Bush, and GW Bush.
     
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    Yet another intentional fallacy from you which is the norm.
     
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    This doesn't often happen, some vps are never ever called on to take the place of the POTUS.
     
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    We're talking about things the government can do. I assume that's what everyone is talking about with respect to abortion as well. Correct? So where is the fallacy?
     

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