How to refute From Bible Concept of Universalism?

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  1. JesusFan

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    As it appears to be gaining popularity in Christian circles once again!
     
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    How to refute.

    1. Universalism isn't in the Bible. Never teaches that all will be saved.
    2. The Bible teaches that there will be some in hell.

    Pretty much refutes the non-biblical idea.
     
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    Universalism comes in and out of vogue whenever folks start chasing logical ends to arguments over theology instead of plainly reading the Word.

    Right now, we are in a cycle where belief in universalism is again on the upswing because folks like Rob Bell and others who paved the way for him have made efforts to eliminate the concept (not to mention the actual physical place of) hell. If there is no hell, then there is no punishment, ultimately, for those who (in liberal terms) simply "fail to get it right," "choose incorrectly," or some other sort of Pelagian worldview.
     
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    Is a "sub part" of Universalism also the belief that appears growing again in 'conditional hell?"

    Tjhat ones goes to hell, but is "burned away" so punishment is total destruction, not eternal punishment?
     
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    That is part of the new thinking (well, not so new, it has been around for 300 years or so) on hell, but even newer is the concept of "choice" as introduced to the general public by Rob Bell. He sees our ability to exercise our libertarian free will (note that I am not in agreement with Bell, either that we HAVE libertarian free will, or the results thereof) can even grant us the ability to chose or not chose hell itself, thus arriving at a new perspective in universalism. In Bell's theology, one can chose God, chose heaven, chose hell, or none of the above (who knows what happens then, just dust, ala the atheist perspective, or perhaps Nirvana -- nothingness -- ala the Eastern religious perspective?).
     

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