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How to spot a liberal?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Rufus_1611, Jun 28, 2007.

  1. 2 Timothy2:1-4

    2 Timothy2:1-4 New Member

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    Sexual identity that is sick, perverted, and completely unnecessary is not humanity.
     
  2. KenH

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    Just because we disagree with someone is no justification for de-humanizing him/her. After all, everyone is created in the image of God even though the image may be badly marred. And we are marred when we come into this world - some more so than others.
     
  3. Magnetic Poles

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    Oh, you are so wrong. Why do some focus on one sin so badly, yet ignore others that the Bible also condemns.

    Other things that are completely unnecessary, and are also part of humanity:
    • Gluttony
    • Covetousness
    • Lustful thoughts
    • Stealing
    • Disrespect
    • Not loving your fellow man and woman
    • Quickness to anger
    and on and on and on. Remove the mote from thine own eye.
     
  4. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    You don't know that about me. And the verse you metioned gets abused time and time again. If your going to quote scripture at least understand the context.
     
  5. Rufus_1611

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    Fair assessments. However, when I hear "more open to change" and "make changes at a much quicker rate", I think of...

    "My son, fear thou the LORD and the king: and meddle not with them that are given to change:" - Proverbs 24:21

    I disagree with finding middle ground for the sake of finding middle ground as that sounds like compromise and I am not a friend of compromise. However, I do agree that all parties should listen to each other and hear all arguments from all sides and compare those arguments to scripture and maybe some issues which are considered "liberal" are not necessarily "liberal" they're just right.
     
  6. Magnetic Poles

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    Finding middle ground for its own sake? I agree with you. However, more often than not, it seems that the optimal solution lies in the middle, and not in the extremes. Somewhere in the tall part of the bell curve.

    Sometimes compromise is a way to make things work out, e.g. "The Great Compromise". Other times, it turns into abject failure, e.g. "The Missouri Compromise". Still all it means is working together to come to a solution that probably doesn't make everyone totally happy, but also probably gives everybody part of what they sought.
     
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    Good list.:thumbs:
     
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    I suppose you are right. Conservatives are mean spirited when we demand those on welfare find a job; demand that the government stay out of our lives and ect.
    You state a liberal is one we disagree with. A liberal is one who freely gives. The problem is they want to freely give MY money away to those who are greedy (as opposed to the needy)

    You state that Conservatives resist change. NO, we want the county to be the way it was intended when founded 231 years ago. A LIMITED FEDERAL GOVT. The liberals want to maintain the tax and spend mentality of Congress ( both Dem & Rep). Many of us believe in Term limits so those in office do not become corrupt by the power. That is the reason Gen Washington imposed a term limit on himself.

    No, Conservatives are not cold hearted. What we do believe in is personal responsibility. I like the term coined by Bush 43 "Compassionate Conservative"
    I would like to type more, but i have an injured index finger.

    Salty

    ps I cut my finger with a jackknife, I am thinking about suing the knife company.
     
  9. Scarlett O.

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    Again, it's not your "point" (which you keep referring to) that I am concerned with. I am concerned that this was a thread in which people were asked their opinion and you claim that I am "way off base" and refute my claims within a context that I am not talking about.

    And if I keep missing your point (as you told me FIVE times) then perhaps your point needs some clarity before you use your point to claim that I am "way off base" with mine.

    After this post, you may have the last word. I won't speak of it again.



    I never once mentioned stem cell research.

    I said "pro-choice". A belief that a woman has the right to terminate a pregnancy for any reason she chooses.

    Oh, I beg to differ.

    A sexual awareness is part of humanity. So is a sexual nature. That's definitely part of what makes us human. We are sexual creatures. I have championed against the Muslim practice of female circumcision because it takes away the ability to be a sexual creature.

    But a sexual identity which is part of what leads to a sexual preference is most definitely not part of humanity. Sexual preferences (which range over a HUGE scale that is certainly not limited to heterosexuality and homosexuality) are not "rights".....ergo, a sexual identity is not a protected "right".

    If a man is allowed to marry another man, then why can't he also marry his dog or several women or legally marry an entire commune of people or claim that he is married to an alien from Jupiter? All of these people would and have claimed "rights" because of their "identity".



    Hmm...just because you don't personally know anyone who believes that money is the panacea for the world's ills means that I am wrong?




    They were part of my discussion. I have a definition and a characterization of pornography.

    What's your definition of pornography?



    I'll agree that everyone is tempted by situational ethics. I admitted in my previous post that I have lied to be tactful.

    Perhaps I was the one not being clear. I was addressing these things on a global scale.

    The adherence to "situational ethics" to the point where one cannot/won't do things such define pornography or cannot/won't come to an agreement with authorities over whether or not crimes have been committed when they obviously have been or cannot/won't legally/morally hold oneself to the same standards as the rest of the people in one's company, church, governmental body, or family.



    Does one change for the sake of change? Is "progressive" change always a good thing?

    Or is it only labeled "progressive" change when it is in alignment with one's own personal viewpoints.

    And is one only labeled a "reactionary" when one disagrees with "progress"?

    You are free to your opinion, as I am I. I will not tell you that you are "way off base" because it is strictly your own opinion.

    You may have the last word.



     
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