Humanism of arminianism

Brother sag.

We debate theology here. The Arminian view must be considered. I have been in the publishing business for a number of years. In the beginning I use to want to hide subjects from the public. I didn't feel as if some subjects should be talked about. Others told me I was wrong. I have found that I indeed was wrong.

When the subject is talked about openly, the truth always comes out. Its placed on the table and people talk about it. Some agree, some disagree. But in the end we all have a better understanding of the subject. Defending your views does indeed make you grow.

If you see the words on a debate board as hurtful, maybe this is not the place for you. Hardly anyone takes this personal. Please do not yourself. At times it is hard to tell if a person is anger or not. I have been wrong for thinking others were mad at me, and I know many times others think i'm mad/upset, when I am only playing with the poster.

In text posting, it is hard to carry over the spirit in which it is meant. Some use smile faces to try and let the other one know it is a joke. But still others use smile faces to mislead...saying what they mean, and hiding it with a smile. Bold letters are used my some to CRY OUT, but some use it to point out a key word.

I may not be worth trying to find out what the other paoter REALLY MEANT. Just work with the words they give you and don't worry about it.

I think you will find that if you disagree, you only need to express why you disagree. This will not distory your faith, but rather build it. In all the years I have debated Calvinism vs Arminianism, I know of only about 15 people that have changed their beliefs to Calvinism. Most....yes...HUNDREDS do not change but grow in their faith of Arminianism.

If you disagree, state why to teach others. This would be better than crying about it.

 

Thanks for another quote.

 

Really?

You were on another thread. You could have said it was wrong for someone to say..."brethren mistakenly elevate Calvin to the supreme authority on all matters even surpassing Paul and the Holy Spirit.".....but you did not.

Why? Why is it wrong to take pot shots at Calvinist???

 

here is another web site that agrees wth Mink.

http://arminianheresy.blogspot.com/2006/05/humanism-of-arminianism.html

If you go to the link, you will find the famous Arminian prayer.

 

On two threads this quote was talked about...

Non-Calvinist didn't see anything wrong with that statement. It was asked to give quotes...non were given. I don't believe Calvinist place John Calvin above Scripture, when most Calvinist have not read Calvin. With no proof I would call that a pot shot at someones faith.

Non-Calvinist laughed. Now they are crying. Why?

 

ha...its hard. I have no idea why somone would do this. But...what I did is read the headlines and if I wanted to read the post, I copied and pasted it into a text doc.

 

Hello Cypress,

Good question, one I hope I can address to your liking.

I have seen more change than a small handful. I have witnessed a full church change from Arminian to Calvinist in just over a year. God has allowed even me to teach others one on one over the years. I write 3 columns that run in local papers. People know me as the Calvinist in my area and will call me up to show me where I'm wrong.

Will the ones that come with a debate mindset change? It is rare. However, it does happen.

Just in the last few months I meet with an Arminian believer that hated Calvinism in the beginning. Once a week to talked about the doctrines over a Big Mac. Each week the Arminian came with verses to blast me. I however never know this till last week. he never shared them. He said I always address the question before he got around to asking it. He now calls himself a Calvinist preacher.

I also have a Bible study in my home and other homes if they ask me, teaching the doctrines that they had never heard before. Most of the ones that come, within a year change to a Calvinist Church. Group settings seem to help. People don't get mad and blow their top in front of others.

I have had people get mad and storm out of my house saying they would never be back. They did come back and are now Calvinist.

So I am sure that people change.

However, people will not change in a debate. Or I should say...it is rare. On the internet, its even harder. People think nothing of telling a lie on the internet. So, they tell lies. Face to face, they are more honoring to others.

On the internet people hide behind something they are not. They google and post words, and take a hour to write 1 or 2 lines, chose words with care. They think they are being clever.

Face to face, people don't act this way. The truth comes, and there is no where to hide. I make them read the verse and ask them what it means. They will tell you. On the internet you ask them what a verse means, they quote another verse. Its all a game

The few that I have seen change in a debate (on the internet), it did not happen that moment. They went away and came back 3=4 months later saying they had study it and are now a Calvinist.

 

Getting back to the subject....

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