"Hurray, We're Capitulating"!

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  1. Ps104_33

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    Here is an excellent article from Der Spiegel which is an excerpt from a book by Henryk M. Broder. It is a MUST READ! for every American and European. This article can be linked from Rush Limbaugh's web site also. It is a rather long article in three parts but I cant stress its importance enough. Just a couple of excerpts here:

    "It comes from fear. Fear may be a poor counselor, but when it comes to educating the masses, there is no more effective tool. Mao famously said: "Strike one to educate one hundred" -- an axiom that helped him solidify his power.
    It is not respect for other cultures which influences behavior, but rather the awareness of just how fanatic and ruthless our adversaries are. The wilder and more brutal they appear to be, the more likely they are to attract attention and gain respect. Whether venturing into unfamiliar territory means taking a walk in a different neighborhood or visiting a foreign culture, our natural tendency is to avoid conflict.
    "Nowadays acts of terrorism are not committed for their own sake, but in the name of an ideology one could call Nazi-Islamism," Romanian-American author Norman Manea told the German daily Die Welt in March 2004. The only difference, in Manea's view, is "that this ideology invokes a religion, whereas the Nazis were mythical without being religious." Manea believes that what he calls a "World War III" has already begun. "The Europeans are putting off the recognition -- as they did in the 1930s -- of the tremendous tragedy that awaits them and that has, in fact, already arrived."


    "The Berlin office of the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War has published a paper describing the consequences of an American nuclear strike against Iran. According to its scenario, more than 2 million people would die within the first 48 hours, and another million would suffer serious injuries. Ten million would be exposed to high levels of radiation. But one question the paper neither poses nor answers is this: What would be the consequential damage of an Iranian nuclear attack once the country is capable of producing and using a nuclear bomb?
    No one wants to address this question, and for good reason: No one knows how to prevent an Iranian nuclear attack, or even how to influence the Iranians' policies. In contrast, there is a very small but real possibility that public pressure can be used to influence the American government to move in one direction or another. The proponents of peace whose protests are directed against America's plans to attack Iran and not against the mullahs' nuclear policies are well aware of this difference. They are not blind in one eye, as they are often accused of being, but instead have a clear view of everything that is happening. And they are as delighted as children discovering a surprise. "Peace Signals from Tehran," the Berliner Zeitung wrote ecstatically in early July, when Iran did not for once flatly reject one of the European Union's many proposed compromises, but instead declared that it would "give it serious consideration."


    http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,462149,00.html
     
  2. KenH

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    Hopefully, the current Iranian regime will be replaced by pressure from within Iran.

    One of the main problems in Iraq is that we took out Saddam Hussein's regime on our own without the Iraqis fighting for their own freedom.

    If people are not first willing to fight for their own freedom it is rather useless to do it for them and then just hand it to them - as we have learned in the Iraq debacle.
     
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    Ken please read the entire piece. It mostly deals wtih the U.S. and Europe's appeasement of radical Islams sharia law. There is every day more and more of a double standard when it comes to religion in the US and Europe. We capitulate to the demands of Islamic extremists when it comes to political cartoons and such but it is always open season on Christians.
     
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    If you'll recalled, they offered early on, some of them highly placed, but we had a "no Ba'athists" policy in place at the time which excluded most army, police and government personnel. So we had well-armed and organized people precluded from participating and from drawing a salary (as important there as here for those with families to support) - well, perhaps they decided to fight for their own freedom as they saw it.
     
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    We have been having problems for years with such in the United States unrelated to Islam. It's the liberal mindset that is the problem on cultural issues.

    Since there is a great deal less conservatism in Europe than in the United States it is a much bigger problem there than here.
     
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    In our Revolutionary War we had already been fighting for our independence before the French came to our assistance. That was not the case in Iraq.
     
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    To come to someone's assistance whether they want it or not could be seen as interfering.
     

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