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Hurricane Rita

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Bro. James Reed, Sep 20, 2005.

  1. RebelBaptist

    RebelBaptist New Member

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    In addition to food, water, ice, generators, batteries, and boarding up, don't forget one very important precaution as well: make sure your weapons are loaded, your permits are up to date, and that you have enough ammunition.

    No, I am not trying to be funny. If you cannot evacuate and secure your property, and you have to stay behind, know that looters will be out and about. Much more so than in New Orleans, since these parts of Texas are more affluent. And believe me, they will not just take your stuff, they will kill you and your family for it. So please, be ready, just in case you need to defend yourself and your loved ones.

    But may you not need to do so. God be with y'all.


    Rebel [><]
    Survivor of Andrew, Erin, Opal, Frances, Jeanne, Ivan, and Dennis, so far
     
  2. TexasSky

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    Hotel chains are canceling reservations as far away as the West border of the state to keep rooms open for evacuees.

    The flooding is the most dangerous part of this for most of Texas. The Colorado River divides Austin, The Trinity River divides Dallas Fort Worth, The Colorado, Trinity and Navasoto Rivers all have streams and tributaries and creeks that flow in the Houston area. The rains from this storm are expected to create massive flooding all up and down the rivers.

    These are the biggest population areas of Texas. Port Arthur has 400,000 people, Houston Metroplex has 5.2 Million, Galveston has over 60,000......
     
  3. Alcott

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    They are reporting now that the hurricane, though diminishing a little in force, may be veering a bit eastward of its yesterday-projected landfall. The patched levees in New Orleans cannot take more than a "few" inches of rain. If it is veering eastward, it could drop enough drain there to force breaches and to put that city under water again. Regardless, 20% or more of our refineries are going to be hit and out of comission for a week or 2--> gasoline will almost definitely reach $4 a gallon, maybe even 5.
     
  4. Johnv

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    Don't you mean "refugees". Oops, sorry, just a mild attempt to lighten the topic a bit with a can of worms (Johnv ducks to avoid tomatoes).

    We should of course lift up the people potentially affected with prayer.
     
  5. LadyEagle

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    Stay safe, all of you. You're in our prayers.
     
  6. TexasSky

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    Just got off the phone with my cousin who works for Hazmat, and who lives in the path. The Galveston seawall is 17 feet high, they are expecting surges closer to 30 feet. They are talking about 10 to 14 inches of rain in one to two hours. The storm-surge alone is supposed to go 20 miles inland.

    If the hurricane goes up the Houston ship channel even if it doesn't destroy the refineries itself, it will destroy the channel and thus shut down the refineries because it will dump too much silt for the ships to get into port.

    They have told my cousin's crews to expect it still be a Hurricane Category 1 when it hits Dallas/Ft Worth, if it stays on the galveston/houston path. If it veers off that path, they expect it do even more damage because it will damage Galveston, Houston, and Port Arthur.

    There is a 15 hour difference in Tampa and Houston, but the hurricane right now is big enough to cause bad weather and high winds in both places.

    My cousin's daughter usually has a 30 minute drive from her home to the airport. It took her almost 13 hours to get there today, but she flew into Amarillo tonight.
     
  7. blackbird

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    That must be some "hum-dinger" of a storm---Katrina only placed a storm surge in Gulfport/Biloxi somewhere close to a mile inland---give or take a few feet

    Fat chance that the refineries will be wiped out-put out of commission, flattened, etc.--and as far as silt in the channel goes---there are such things as dredge boats that can clear the channel within hours---if the 'cane just flat out flattens the refineries there---as in like a pancake flat---I'd have to see it to believe it---we got 116 mph sustained winds---and sure there was tree damage here and there----and the wind did bend our flag pole just a little bit(only because I didn't think to lower the flag)---but all in all---barring the surge that passed through Gulfport---and the flood in New Orleans(man induced---"whoops--there went the levee!!)---it was nothing worse than damage I've seen from a 30 second tornado that came through here a year ago!!!!
     
  8. KenH

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    A growing concern is that Hurricane Rita could stall over northeast Texas and that some places could get 25 inches of rain, and that what's left of the storm could drift back toward Houston after a few days.

    I may end up on the east side of the storm if it stalls in northeast Texas. I went through 30 inches of rain back in 1967 with Hurricane Beulah on the Texas coast near Corpus Christi. I don't want to go through 25 inches now.
     
  9. TexasSky

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    Blackbird,

    The surge reports were from a weather channel.
    The channel report was from my cousin's husband who was asked to crews ready to stand by to clear the channel if it does become blocked by silt.

    I'm no expert. He is.
    As to the barges and things - I don't have any idea how long it would take. I DO know that not all ship channels are built the same, and I also know that a barge has to survive the hurricane before it can be used to clear a channel.

    I hope the "dooms day" predictions are wrong, but I also know that they call the conference center "three rivers" for a reason, and I know that when you're in "downtown" Houston with its skyscrappers its hard to believe you aren't in New York city.

    I know that tropical storm Allison didn't have the winds, but the rain alone did over 2.5 Billion dollars worth of damage.
     
  10. Bro. James Reed

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    KHOU Channel 11's Dr. Neil Frank is predicting that the storm will not make the northern turn that the national weather service is expecting and will instead head straight into Galveston Bay, over the cities of Galveston and Houston.

    I was just listening to his broadcast, and he is saying that he can not figure out where the national service is getting their prediction of a northern turn from. He just does not see it.

    From fema.gov

    Dr. Frank has been the chief meteorologist for KHOU, our CBS affiliate, since leaving as Director of the National Hurricane Center in 1987.

    I trust his judgment fully.

    I fear the national weather service is making many in our area become complacent by saying it will turn to the north. It has yet to happen, and the hurricane's forward momentum should just take it straight into our area.

    After a day of relief, believing that the storm will turn and we will miss the worst part, we are now again becoming worried.

    And the bad thing is, many of the freeways are still backed up into the city with evacuees, many of whom have just run out of gas on the highways.

    There is absolutely no gasoline to be found in Houston or anywhere within 75 to 100 miles of the city.

    We have 3 generators at my house, and we will have to siphon our vehicle gas tanks to keep them filled if we lose power.

    Things are beginning to look grim, and we are going to see hurricane force winds for 12-15 hours beginning around daybreak tomorrow.

    Continue to pray for our safety.

    Many folks who should have evacuated have been unable to do so because of the traffic.

    Also, please pray for the families of those killed in the bus explosion outside Dallas this morning. 45 nursing home residents were being evacuated via bus from Houston when the brakes on their bus caught fire and the residents' oxygen tanks began to explode. 24 out of the 45 have been confirmed dead.

    It is just unbelieveable to think about it. They were being evacuated from a potentially deadly situation only to die in an even worse situation.

    Let's pray that this accident is not seen elsewhere.

    This will be one of my last messages for a while.

    I'll probably update my condition late tonight just before the bad storms begin to hit.

    If I don't get to speak with you all again, then I pray I'll see you in Glory. [​IMG]

    Brother James Reed
     
  11. TexasSky

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    One of my employers is an expert in storm research, and he agrees with Dr. Frank.
     
  12. menageriekeeper

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    Let me be the calming voice.

    Galvaston/Houston sit ABOVE sea level, unlike NO. I believe I heard that it sits 8 feet above sea level. Add to that the 17 foot seawall and you get protection from 25 foot of that 30 foot storm surge.

    The 14 inches of rain on the other hand with nowhere to go will cause probably more flooding than than the storm will. Even that won't be as bad as NO where one of the levies has already burst and water is now pouring back into parts of the city.(God's madder at them than He is Texas ;) ) http://www.foxnews.com/index.html

    Bro. James, please keep us updated as you are able. God be with you as you undergo this experience. I will be praying for you.
     
  13. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Watching MSNBC and they are saying that the eye wall appears to be collapsing on itself.
     
  14. PamelaK

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    C4K - Is that good or bad??
     
  15. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    If true that would be great news - it would mean the hurricane's intensity was falling apart.

    Down to Cat3 now. Maybe, just maybe it will not be near as serious. The signs are looking better.
     
  16. PamelaK

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    Ok, then, C4K...makes sense.....that's great! Thanks!
     
  17. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Barometric pressure is also rising, another good sign.

    The problem is that the water is already moving, storm surges will still be serious.
     
  18. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

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    This will be our designated Hurricane Rite thread. It will be exempt from the three page limit.
     
  19. Bro. James Reed

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    Before 1900, the highest point of Galveston was 9 feet above sea level.

    The west end of the island, where all of the development has been over the last 3 decades, and the most expensive homes, is between 5 and 8 feet above sea level. The seawall is 17 feet tall, but it starts at the beach, so it is not 17' added to the island height. 17' is the total height. There are a few places downtown that are higher than that, but probably 95% of the city is below 17'; it gets lower towards the mainland.

    Most of Houston ranges in height between 30' and 60' feet above sea level, although there are areas lower and higher. The southern and eastern suburbs are lower. Baytown, for example, is where my pastor lives. It is between 10 and 25 feet above sea level, so a storm surge coming straight into the bay would flood the majority of the city. The areas south and east of downtown, basically below I-10 and the 610 loop, would be inundated in a cat. 4 or 5 storm surge. The rest of the city would likely be under water from the rain. Houston floods at the drop of a hat.

    The Bayou system is not able to handle more than about 12 inches in a 24 hour period before overflowing. Add the storm surge, which will keep the water from draining, and actually push water up the bayous, rather than down, and we are talking about Allison-type flooding again.

    They also say that the storm may stall over east Texas and reverse back over us. That is exactly what Allison did, and that was the reason for half of city being under water.

    We are now in NW Harris County on pretty high ground, about 140' above sea level, so we should fair pretty well as long as out creek does not overflow too badly.

    They say the eye often breaks down a little before a re-strengthening period. I hope that is not the case with this latest info.
     
  20. Bro. James Reed

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    We are now getting the first gusts from the approaching monster.

    Winds are probably between 15 and 20 mph sustained now, with gusts a little higher.

    Everything here is secure, and I've taken pictures of the outside of the house from every angle in case of an insurance claim.

    There are probably 50 tall, skinny pine trees lining the backs of the houses across the street. A few already have broken limbs. There is almost a certainty that many of them will be coming down. I have pictures of those too.

    It is just beginning to sprinkle a bit.


    All of this, and the storm is still well over 100 miles off shore!!!

    It is beginning to thunder, so I will be off "the air" until further notice. Many of our neighbors have left, and many have dozens of family and friends holed up with them.

    We are as prepared as we can be.

    I'll try to check back in tomorrow after the biggest part passes, if we still have power, so until then, continue praying, and continue to give God all of the glory for all of the good things in life.

    God bless you all.

    Brother James [​IMG]
     
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