Hyles Anderson College

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Would you go to this College?

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  1. mark brandwein

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    I am a Independent Fundlemental Bible Baptist. My Pastor, form Choice Hills Baptist church, in Las Vegas NV. Suggested that if I wanted to go to a good school go to Hyles Anderson. My Pastor graduated from there, and almost every preacher or pastor that I have ever met has graduated from this college. What is your opinion? If you had a choice, would you go to this college?
     
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    Mark, these polls can be a little tricky on the first try. I, for one, have never succeeded in posting one with a time limitation.

    To address your questions, I wouldn't recommend H-A to others and chose not to attend their myself many years ago--a decision that I am thankful I made.
     
  3. Dr. Bob

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    One of the colleges I would NEVER consider and is attracting and producing a product that is often a reproach to the cause of Christ.

    Rather than "dis" them publically (which could fill this forum) you may send me a personal message and I will answer specific questions you might have.
     
  4. Matthew 16:24

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    Bob,
    Could you explain why in a tactful manner?
    I am curious now.
    I attended a IFB church where HA was highly regarded, almost too much. I did leave that church because of a personal dispute, so I wonder what you have to say.

    Thanks.
     
  5. Askjo

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    wrong pastoral training -- wrong soul-winning method. That's why I suggest you not to go there.
     
  6. I Am Blessed 24

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    Mark: If you are looking for an IFB college, IMHO, HA is a very good choice.

    Your pastor recommended it and since he went there, that's who you should be listening to.

    Two of my children went there and I have been there and also attended the church. I see nothing wrong with their doctrine, high standards, teaching or soulwinning methods.

    Email me if you would like more information.

    Blessings,
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  7. Gunther

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    Must wonder about the discernment of any "pastor" who recommends HA. It is basically a machine. It produces clones of Hyles (like he was anything worth imitating).
     
  8. Squire Robertsson

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    HA is a product of a certain culture. Its roots are in the movement by J. Frank Norris and others to separate from the SBC during the 30s-50s (in other words long before the "conservative resurgence"). Some of the these folks went on the found the Baptist Bible Fellowship and BBC-Springfield, MO. It is out of this denominational historical (SBC) and cultural (Southern US/Texas) background that HA was founded by Brother Hyles. Personally as a Westerner, I find that the school is too narrow in its focus. (If it worked here in Hammond and for Pastor Hyles, it'll work for you.)

    Rather than spending the gas money to go to Indiana, I'd just drive down to Tempe and got to International Baptist College. IBC is a ministry of Tri-City Baptist Church. The school is closer and would be more culturally relevent to some one from Las Vegas.

    [ October 16, 2003, 11:20 AM: Message edited by: Squire Robertsson ]
     
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    Gunther Said:

    Funny you mention this. Some Friends of mine who are involved in music wrote a song several years ago which was a parody to Ray Stevens' "Blue Cyclone" and called it Jack Hyles Clones (the spittinest Preachers the world has ever known) LOL!
    I have heard a lot of Hyles Preacher Boys and men preach and they all seem to try to imitate his style of preaching as well...even down to his coughing. Just an observation.
     
  10. Gunther

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    Can they imitate his deplorable theology also and cultlike following?
     
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    I oppose to it because I investigated it there before. Sorry, it is a bad choice.

    It is not the Holy Spirit leading you there.

    Doctrine is more problems in HA. High standards are more problems in HA. Soul-winning methods are worst problems in HA.
     
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    In 1997, I read 'Sword of the Lord' maginaze. There was an advertisment about Hyles-Anderson College. There were reports with the numbers from the result of year 1996, that church - First Baptst Church boasted claim there were over 53,000 souls saved a year, and more than 10,000 baptisms a year. It claims, over 15,000 souls saved during single Sunday service, and 5,400 baptized follow the same service.

    I don't buy it. I went to First Baptist Church during Dr. Hyles' funereal. I looked at the auditorium of that church. It looks to me, the seats fit about 3,500 to 4000 seats.

    I am not alone. 2 years ago, a deaf evangelist told me, he went to that church sereval times. He said, the seats at FBC is about 2,500 to 3,000. I agree with him. His brother-in-law graduated from HAC, he is now pastor. His brother-in-law says, he's disappoint to see many people who graduated from HAC, they still worship Hyles, and copy his way.

    I do not believe there was over 15,000 soul saved during single day service. I think that churh had the purpose of number is pride. I think Late Dr. Jack Hyles has his own pride of his church for bein boast on the numbers of souls saved, think his church is the best church in the world.

    I remember about 12 years ago, when I was a student at MIdwestern Baptist College. My old friend as student at MBC, he told me, when he was 9 years old. He lived in Gary, Indiana. He was brought to First Baptist Church. He was baptized there. But, he does not understand the salvation, because he told me, the man witness the gospel to him TOO FAST. He just said, "Yes" to the man, just accepted Christ then baptized same day. But he was not actually understand salvation at the first place. Many years later, he was military at Philippine Islands. A guy witnesed to him, it took more time for him to understand salvation. Finally to understand it, then believed in Jesus Christ and repented to be saved. Then few weeks later he baptized.

    Do I believe whole of 15,000 souls saved during single servce in 1996 or 1997? I afraid not. I doubt so. I fear of it, because of 'Easy Believism' in wrong method of soul winning. I do not think many of 15,000 were actaully saved, becaus they do not actual understand the salvation complete and not really repent of their sins.

    I looked at Hyles' book in the back. That church boasts and claim, over 100,000 memberships.

    My question is, WHERE are the rest of 95,000 people go????


    That church have the problem is their lack of discipleship. Sorry to saying it. That is the fact.

    If suppose I am pastor, a person come to me, ask me would a person attends HAC? I could saying to a person, NO.

    I am not God or Holy Spirit. I already felt when I was there. I was not comfortable there, because it was cold spirit.

    I cannot tell to a person, where Bible college, person will attend. Only Holy Spirit will guide person where to attend Bible College.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!
     
  13. TomVols

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    I'd avoid HA and look for a more Biblical place to prepare for ministry.
     
  14. DeafPosttrib

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    TomVols,

    You're from Knoxville, TN? I am sure that you might already hear Crown College before. I think, you should visit that college someday. It is in Powell, it's not far from Knoxville. I hear Clarence Sexton often. He's very good preacher! I suggest you why not visit Crown College someday in the future.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!
     
  15. PastorGreg

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    I am not personally comfortable with a lot of things at HAC, but I think we do need to guard our spirits. While I agree with DPT that the "soul-winning" philosophy has major problems, the attendance is a different issue. The size of the auditorium has nothing to do with how many may have attended. Most of the people there would be in other forums - Jr. church, Spanish dept., etc.
     
  16. mark brandwein

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    Thank you for all your opinions. First of all, after reading everybody's posts, I am convinced that this is not the Bible College I should attend. Yes, I believe with my heart that the Holy Spirit is not pushing me to go there. I did some research on the college that did not appeal to me. I want to go to Bible College, I live in Naples FL. What would you suggest here in Florida, that is Independent Fundlemental Bible Baptist? I have had this burning desire coming from my heart a long time now. I know thats the Holy Spirit. To be honest with you, its like going to the ice cream parlor for the first time, and there are so many flavors, I cant decide which one to get. So, I appreciate everybody's posts. Thank you and God Bless everybody.
     
  17. Gunther

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    If you want to stay in Florida, your options are small.

    Clearwater Christian College would fit in that category you want.
     
  18. Charles Smith

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    I'm not sure where in Florida Naples is. Here are some IFB colleges I know of in Florida though

    Landmark Baptist College Haines City (Orlando)www.landmarkbaptistchurch.org
    Trinity Baptist College Jacksonville www.tbc.edu
    Berean Baptist College Orange Park
    Pensacola Christian College.

    My pastor attended Landmark and he turned out fine.
     
  19. Kidz-4-HIM

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    Crown is a great place to go, I was down there for a week attending their Pastor's College, and everything from the grounds to the buildings to the services were top notch. I am praying about someday attending there myself.
    God Bless
    Cline
     
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    I attended HAC in the fall of '74. High standards are good but, some of them were a little illogical. Visiting females with skirts shorter than their standard were asked to leave until they changed clothes because that was below their standards. Male visitors with longer hair than their standrds were NOT asked to leave until they could meet the standard. The only reason I could see for the double standard was that it was easier to ask a girl to change clothes then to ask a guy to cut his hair. Also, the way the demerit system worked was a little strange. One Sunday morning it snowed real heavy and I was not going to be able to travel to First Baptist (a requirement) and I was left with the choice of walking to a nearby church or staying home. I was going to get more demerits for attending a different church than for not going at all. I had to stay home as going to church would have put me over the limit in demerits and I would have been expelled. There were some good teachers there though and I really enjoyed several of my classes. My only personal interaction with Dr. Hyles himself did not endear him to me. I observed him chewing a little boy out because he referred to him as "Jack" instead of Dr. Hyles.
     

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