Hyper Calvinism?

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  1. NathanStinson

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    I have been to this site before where this guys' beliefs have been dubbed as "hyper calvinism" so I was wanting to know what you ,more knowledgable than I, pastors and regular people would know concerning it (I am fairly new to calvinistic discussion)

    thanks

    the adress is
    http://www.lazarusunbound.com/doctrines.html

    included in there are different "doctrines" of calvinism.
     
  2. Johnv

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    Hypercalvinism, hyperarminiamism, and hyperfundamentalism are the three most prevalent dangers thriving in the Christian church today. The reason for this is because they are easy bandwagons to get suckered into getting on.
     
  3. Tractster

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    Uhhh.... what about "hyperdispensationalism"? :)

    Roscoe
     
  4. NathanStinson

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    if they are all bandwagons, then which is the right one?
     
  5. Frogman

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    Hey Nathan,
    I used to live in Poteau when I was a young child.

    The question concerning bandwagons...IMHO, in such extremes of any one of these there is found some truth, but no one of these are 'right.'

    The goal is to realize the Sovereignty of God without failure to recognize the responsibility of man.

    The inability to see to the throne of God, where each of these and ultimately all doctrine flow, causes us to develop such extreme stands.

    I am often called 'hyper-Calvinist'. I do not view myself as Calvinist at all because I differ in the point concerning perserverance and preservation.

    I believe God preserves the elect.

    I have also been called hyper-dispensationalist because of my view of the church and the end times.

    Neither of these labels bother me.

    To answer your original question, hyper-Calvinism in a nutshell is the belief that evangelism is unnecessary or even un-Biblical.

    A great link can be found through 'the Hall of Church History' placed on the web by Phil Johnson. I will try to find the link and post it here for you. He has written an article describing the differences between Calvinism and hyper-Calvinism.

    Be back in a while.

    Bro. Dallas

    The link is below:

    web page
     
  6. Yelsew

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    NOT ONE OF THEM IS CORRECT!
     
  7. russell55

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    I agree with Dallas.

    I looked at the web site a bit and saw nothing that I would call hypercalvinism, but I didn't look at everything.

    [ December 08, 2003, 08:23 PM: Message edited by: russell55 ]
     
  8. NathanStinson

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    ah all right, thanks for the replies so far!


    and where did you live in Poteau? I;ve been born and raised here...unfortuanately [​IMG]

    and I'm 18 today!
     
  9. Frogman

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    I can't remember, I was quite young. I do remember we lived within walking distance of the Elementary school where I attended kindergarten. It seems we were near the main highway coming into Poteau from Arkansas.

    I remember the school because I often got into trouble for trying to leave during recess and walk home. I could see my house from the playground. About 1 block away.

    I hated school in those days.

    We lived there between 72-74'.

    Friday is my birthday. Monday was my dad's and a niece. Happy belated birthday.

    Bro. Dallas [​IMG]
     
  10. JohnB

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    Good news. There are no hyper-calvinists.

    Of course, there are no wealthy or beautiful people either.

    Here's what I mean. If you polled your congregation for a show of hands as to who was beautiful or wealthy, how many hands would you see. None.

    If you could gather all the Calvinists of all history together and ask who are the hypers, how many hands would be raised? None.

    These are labels we apply to others as a handy means of theological smack-down.
     
  11. RIDER

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    Primitive Baptists are many times known as hyper-calvinistic.
     

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