Hypnosis

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  1. HeDied4U

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    What are your opinions on a Christian getting hypnotized?

    I have a friend who is considering it to help her lose weight, but she wants to make sure it's "safe."

    So, I guess my question would be...is Christianity and hypnosis compatible?

    Thanks for any info provided.

    God Bless!!!

    Adam [​IMG]
     
  2. Harald

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    Regardless of a person's religious convictions hypnosis is dangerous. I suggest you get your hand on Martin and Deidre Bobgan's book on Hypnosis. They have written about it from a Christian worldview perspective. I think the now available edition is somewhat expanded from the one I have. It is worth a buy. I would not ever dare to recommend hypnosis to anyone. It is quite the same as mesmerism. The power at work in hypnosis I believe to be demonic, and I am not the only one of that conviction.

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  3. Ben W

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    Depends,

    Some types of Hypnosis are nothing more than relaxation techniques which I have used myself in order to overcome insomnia.

    Other types of Hypnosis are simply relaxing a person and helping them remember things that have happened in there past. there is again nothing wrong with that.

    Where problems start is when another person has the ability to have you in a deepened state of mind to the point where they can influence you, that I do not agree with.

    And as far as Hypnotism to recant past lives!, well its pretty obvious that we all have a similar opinion there.

    My advice is to see what type of hypnosis is going to happen, Also if the person is a Christian, there are many excellent Christian phsycologists who are more equipped to understand your point of view. Also I would have somebody there who you trust to keep an eye on things just in case.
     
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    Try prayer first.
     
  5. Helen

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    Ben and all,

    Hypnosis ALWAYS demands that one give up control of one's mind to another. It is known now that memories can even be 'planted' and take on the appearance of reality that actually happened.

    Losing weight that way is pretty dangerous when it also involves losing one's mind, literally, even for a little time.

    Here, for your information:

    http://www.pathlights.com/dangers_of_hypnotism.htm

    http://logosresourcepages.org/hypnosis.html

    This is also a very good, and related, article:

    http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/inner.htm
     
  6. donnA

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    Once you give up control, not only can the hynotist control your mind, but your mind is now defensless against satan. You allow him direct access, and as the hynotist can give suggests of what you are to do(stop smoking, eat less and loos weight, stop biting your nails) so can satan. You have in effect invited him in. And he won't hesitate to take the advantage.
     
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    I don't know. It probably could be used for good or bad, I wouldn't want to do it but wouldn't condemn others for trying it if they wanted to. Does Satan know our every thoughts? I don't think he has that power, or can get into our minds and control it, especially not a Christian. Where did you get that from Kate?
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  8. Wygal

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    Gina, that's a good question. I thought that Satan knows our weaknesses, and attacks there every chance he gets, but does he know our private thoughts? Think I heard someone say that he can hear us when we voice out loud, but not our private thoughts and prayers, but I do not know if that's right or not. As far as hypnotism, like Harald says, I think it used to be called mesmerism, and I think it's probably a risky thing to do. You are basically in a trance.
     
  9. Mike McK

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    Adam, my mom is a therapist who uses hypnosis in her practice.

    Most of what the folks here are telling you is more Hollywood than hypnosis.

    The truth is, no matter how much people like David Clown may try to tell you otherwise, you're still in control when you're under hypnosis and no one can make you do anything you don't want to.

    When I played baseball, I saw a sports psychologist who used hypnosis and it helped me a great deal.

    If you want to talk to a professional about it who won't give you the Hollywood version, PM me and I'll put you in touch with my mom.
     
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    Mike, there is too much evidence that false memories can be planted, number one, and that the person is NOT in control, number two, for you to be able to brush it off that easily.

    Hypnosis is dangerous. The only person who should have that much control over our minds when we are not in active control is God Himself, not another human being.
     
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    you know what? I visited the site of a big and recognized american bible college (i don't remember which one). I was very surprised to see in the links a link to the national federation of hypnotiser.
     
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    Mike. I think your approach to hypnotism is purely pragmatical, not based on truth and fact. Many things may make a person feel good, but they are not necessarily benevolent to him/her in a real sense.

    The well known German demonologist Kurt Koch, who was a baby sprinkling Lutheran, warned against hypnotism in his books. While I do not agree with all of Koch's conclusion regarding the demonic I nevertheless believe he was right on track with this warning. I agree on all counts with Helen that hypnotism is dangerous, really dangerous. Those professedly Christian psychologists and hypnotists who go on practising these things are nothing but deceiving sorcerers dressed up in a Christian profession. It is the same power that was at work in the Toronto revival deception, but taking on slightly different appearances.


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    Ally. I went straight to the conclusion of the article you linked to, and there the author is not giving right advice:


    Conclusion
    If the concepts implicit and explicit in these three rather artificial tests are safeguarded, I currently would cautiously accept the limited use of hypnosis in medical practice for specific indications, but I urge great caution. 'If in doubt, leave it out'.


    Andrew Fergusson

    END OF QUOTE


    Harald: I would give the advice to always avoid hypnotism, and never ever meddle with it. It is never approved of God, and will never be. Otherwise the article may have some informative value.


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    Thanks, Harald. I only read the beginning part, but it didn't seem like it had Christian origins at all.
     
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    Like I said, if he wants to find out from the horses mouth, so to speak, he can PM me and I'll put him in touch with a good one.
     
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    Gina, I didn't say satan knows your thoughts. I said when a person is hypnotised they open their minds up to any suggestion, including satans. he will take any advatage you give him.If people can eb hypnotized and be given suggestions to do anything, including loose weight, then they can be given suggestions for anything else, even from satan.
     
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    To use anything as a tool too lose weight makes you a servent to the tool. I do not think that the use of hypnosis is compatable with the Christian life, we are to submit our life to Christ. Proverbs 23:21 For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rages. Some times preception conectes us to a path choice, but we must make that choice.

    Ken &gt;&lt;KJV&gt;
     
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    Adam. As for the friend's weight loosing. Let her shun hypnosis at all costs. Weight loosing as I see it comes through getting educated with respect to nutrition and health, and by applying what one learns to one's life. It of course may take some effort, but once one gets started results are bound to follow. I am no expert on dieting so called. I just think a long range change to a healthier diet is the best solution, not some "I must loose so and so many pounds in so and so short a time" kind of thing. Such an approach I fear all too often results in a jojo movement, where the weight drops and the rises again. As for healthy eating choices I think HankD here on the board (somewhere) may be of great help.

    An internet site I could recommend is Weston A Price Foundation. If any be interested but cannot find it just ask me for the link.


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