I Applaud.

You prefer the board allow people to promote abortion and give false statements as fact? Or defend the truth of God's word?

 

Standing for the lives of unborn children is never sad. To bad anyone thinks so. Sad

 

Its neither. This issue (which I guess I'm not able to elucidate) isn't an explicit biblical issue. I've worked with fellow PhD's in biology, ethics, and so forth who are earnest evangelicals (opposing abortion) committed to a biblical theology who disagree with the position.

Also it damages the conversation around here. Why dictate outside of a general presentation of issues. Frankly I don't think we can state "fact" either way on ths issue. It is a matter of belief and faith.

I'll probably get laid out for taking this position on the dictate but it's worth it imho.

 

No one claimed that - at all.

Some feel that a free exchange of ideas might just be the best way to defend the truth, because the truth will always win out in the end.

 

Does that include false teachers? Their still at it last time I looked.

 

I can fully understand the idea that silencing opposition is not the best way to defend the truth.

That's why this decision does not forbid the expression of opinions, but expressing opposing views as fact.

I applaud that reasoning.

 

Making statements that life doesn't begin at conception on a public Baptist board is very dangerous..

For instance, and this is what I have been arguing all along...

Suppose your daughter got pregnant.
YOU didn't know.. she didn't tell you, but because you are on BB, she figures she can lurk on here, and find out what others think about abortion.

She runs across some Baptists arguing that life begins at birth not conception..

So she goes away thinking, well, maybe dad (or mom) isn't right.. afterall, there are people that they associate with, Christians, that say what is in my belly is not alive... maybe it is a mass of cellular tissue. so she decides to have the abortion...

This board as a public entity on the net, a Christian public entity, A BAPTIST public entity.. has the RESPONSIBILITY to take a stand on moral issues.

It had statements agains about sexual immorality, and racism..now it has a statement against the 21st century holocaust... abortion.

The Mods, Administrators, and Webmaster has decided to take a stand for life. A decision that may be a life and death decision.. It may save some babies' life.

So I again applaud this decision just like I applaud the decision to not let any racists remarks stand.

It is not about debating in a mirror.. it is about being socially responsible on the Net.

 

So why was my above post editted to exclude my "belief" on this issue?

Doesn't seem in keeping with your statement. I never added fact, just a viewpoint.

Also, what if this isn't an issue of "false teaching" or "right teaching" but just another way of viewing (in keeping with biblical ethics) an issue that won't be resolved this side of heaven? Just curious.

 

To me it is a dangerous loophole in the rule, an makes the rule of none effect.

LIfe begins at conception.. it is in the Statement of Faith of the BB.. and no opposing statements should be allowed just because someone adds.. "IMO"...

If someone came on here arguing there is no God.. would they be allowed if they state over and over again "IMO"...

Watch what I do in my signature line...

That means I can say anything I want now. right? After all, every post I have is IMO....

 

Children do not need to be aborted at any stage. What more is there to discuss?

 

Don't try to make me out to support abortion at any time and for any reason. There is no one more opposed to abortion on this board than I am.

And no one is permitted to support abortion here at all - this is only for discussions involving when life begins.

I personally think discussion is valid and helpful, People need to learn how to deal with opposing viewpoints and combat them with the truth.

 

Thats right.

IMO, saying life does not begin at conception leads to being pro-abortion...

I mean, if someone's opinion is it is not alive, then they cannot call it murder...

And that has been said on this board before.

But of course that is IMO.. (NOT so humble!)

 

How....in the world did you turn my comment into that? You need to rethink it.

 

Apologies - I hate abortion so much that sometimes I can type before I think. Please forgive me.

 

A conservative position defended with the tactics of liberals. It was an easy line to cross once you expelled the Millennial Exclusionists.

It's your board, and you have every right, but in a forum whose stated purpose was to encourage discussion and healthy debate of real issues, this latest curtailment of liberty appears neither consistent nor laudable.

This board will soon became a place where one simply seeks the honor of the owners.

 

You gave an excellent example, tt. Well done. :thumbs:

 

The key phrase is "as fact." You can state your opinion Aaron. Just note that it will be wrong, if contrary to the BB position. Be sure it is stated as opinion.

 

You successfully silenced me. Thank you very much. This too is truth, but truth has been stifled, so that it is no longer truth, just one groups opinion.

Cheers,

Jim

If ALL are not free, then NONE are free

 

Accepted. God Bless