'I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel forever'

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  1. beameup

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    Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48 greatly detail the coming Millennial Temple, where Jesus (Yeshua) will sit as both King and Priest.

    And the glory of the LORD came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect is toward the east. So the spirit took me up, and brought me into the inner court; and, behold, the glory of the LORD filled the house. And I heard him speaking unto me out of the house; and the man stood by me. And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet [domicile], where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel forever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile Ezek 43:44-47
     
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    Heb 8:13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away, only to reappear again in the Millennial Kingdom.

    from the DDV (Darby Dispo Version)
     
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    The perimeter of the city will be six miles, and the name of the city from that day on will be: "Jehovah Is There.” [formerly known as Jerusalem] Ezek 48:35 Holman

    "so it is written, so shall it be done"
     
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    Could you present Book, Chapter, and Verse for that last statement or is that the remark of a pagan taken from a movie!
     
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    He is a weird guy, I will give you that. :)
     
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    Ahhhhhh hhhhhhh......Ring a ding ding! :laugh:
     
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    With all kinds of sin offerings. Apparently the atoning work of Christ comes to an end in the Dispie MK.
     
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    Well, after all, the Church was only an interruption, a "parenthesis" in GOD's program for Israel! The Incarnation was no big deal. GOD laying aside HIS Glory to live among sinful man was no big deal! The Virgin Birth was no big deal! The Jews conspiring with the hated Romans to murder Jesus Christ was no big deal. After all the high priest said:

    John 11:49, 50
    49. And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,
    50. Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.


    But look on the bright side. Some enterprising entrepreneur can start a big sheep farm to provide the lambs for sacrifice.
     
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    For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob [genetic Israelites] For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Romans 11:25-27

    God's yet-future plan for Israel is clear from the Scriptures.
    BTW, there are numerous "sacrifices" and "offerings" recorded in Ezek 40-48, but no "Day of Atonement" (Yom Kippur) for Israel (why??, see above)
    The sacrifices and offerings in the Millennial Temple are for a memorial, and have deep significance which is yet to be revealed
    (probably was revealed to Paul, though). Besides, these "sacrifices" and "offerings" were eaten as food by the Mosaic priesthood (think barbecue :laugh: ).
     
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    The Old Covenant of the Law was done away. Why because Christ fulfilled it. The Promises of the land and especially of Messianic Kingdom had no end. What did the Law do?
    How many kept the Law?
    For that matter can we keep the law?
    The Covenant of the Law was done away, the Covenant to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob concerning their seed and the coming one who would dwell with them forever was unconditional and has not been disavowed by God.
     
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    Find one passage that states this.
     
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    So what GOD through the Apostle Paul said in the following Scripture is meaningless?

    Galatians 3:16, 26-29
    16. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

    26. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
    27. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
    28. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
    29. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
     
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    God's Covenant to Abraham concerning the land has never been revoked:
    Thus saith the Lord GOD; This shall be the border, whereby ye shall inherit the land according to the twelve tribes of Israel: Joseph shall have two portions. And ye shall inherit it, one as well as another: concerning the which I lifted up mine hand to give it unto your fathers: and this land shall fall unto you for inheritance.

    Now, for further study concerning the coming Temple, where Jesus shall rule the earth as both King and Priest, refer to Ezekiel 40-47:12. For specifics on how the land of Israel will be divided between the twelve tribes, refer to Ezek 47:15 through 48.

    God is not a man that he should lie.
     
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    We are Christ's and as we have received the same salvation that the same spiritual inheritance as everyone in the Old Testament had. We have the same Spiritual inheritance that Abraham had, that is salvation and spending eternity with Christ. We are God's spiritual Children because we have been identified with Christ by Grace through faith. For in the church you know the one Christ said He would build upon Peter's faith, there is no distinction of race, slave or free, male nor female, we are all one in Christ and therefore we that is church age believers, believers in the dispensation of Grace make up the Bride of Christ, the Church. We in this age have a distinction form the O.T. saints we have the indwelling Holy Spirit which the O.T. saints never had, at least no O.T. scripture I have found says they do. It does say the spirit would come upon them in Judges.
     
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    So! How do you reconcile the two comments. in the first you reestablish something called the Messianic Kingdom. In the second you seem to deny such a kingdom! Scripture agrees with the latter:

    Galatians 3:16, 26-29
    16. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

    26. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
    27. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
    28. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
    29. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.



     
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    Israel was a picture of the church to come. Even Stephen the Deacon state it, calling it the 'church in the wilderness' in Acts 7:38.
     
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    The word "ekklesia" simply means assembly.
    So, there was an "assembly" in the wilderness... so?

    And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer,
    and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them,
    when I shall take away their sins.
    Romans 11:26-27 (see Heb 8:7-11, note: applies to "Israel" and "Judah")

    BTW, if you were to look at the "assembly" of the 12 Tribes
    "in the wilderness" from an airplane, they would form a cross.
     
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    Repeating endlessly. The Deliverer came out of Zion 2000 years ago. The Jews conspired with the Romans to slaughter Him!
     
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    And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. Rev 14:1

    Looks like the Lamb (Jesus) will stand on Mount Zion with his Hebrew brethren.
    Perhaps you can show us where "ungodliness" was removed permanently from Jacob (ie: genetic Israel).
     
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    Your problem is two folf. First you have no idea of the correct way to interpret Revelation. Second your belief in more than one Gospel is heretical!
     

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