If mary jane was legalized in the U.S.?

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  1. shannonL

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    would it be alright for a christian to smoke pot?
    I personally don't think it would be. Yet for those of you who prefer to drink in moderation I just want to know what you think? The use of pot is not specifically addressed in Scripture. Maybe it is somehow I admit that I may have missed it.

    I'm not trying to be a smarty pants I just want to know if the same rationale that is used for moderate drinking can be applied to moderate pot smoking if it were legal in the US.

    Some christians have little wine to "unwind" so why not smoke a little J to do the same? Booze hurts the liver and kills brain cells. Pot kills brain cells and burns up your lungs. Now I'm not saying go out and smoke a half ounce of reefer in one night with a couple of your buddys. I'm saying just twist one up after dinner to chill. Some got their moderate wine thing, why not let the casual, recreational pot smoker have his doobie?

    If anything this should be a entertaining thread.
     
  2. untangled

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    I was asked this question this morning. I can't wait to see some of the answers.

    Drugs sicken me and I hate the thought of them. I believe pot puts your mind in a state similar to drunkeness. We are not to take to drunkeness therefore we should not let our minds be affected by drugs.
     
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    Having a beer or glass of wine is MUCH different than a joint. You're not going to get in a different state of mind by one or two beer.
     
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    No it would not. Our bodies are supposed to be treated like a temple of God and pot does not fit into that equation
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    I think drugs like that should be by prescription only.

    Somebody once said - and I think wisely - that if alcohol were unknown to the race, then discovered today, and all its known properties as we know it were to be known, it would be hailed as a modern miracle. But it would only be availabe by perscription.
     
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    I say no. I dont even hold the opinion you should smoke it by perscription. Marisol is a pill synthetic form of marajuana and does the same thing. I think that is just an excuse to smoke.

    There has to be thousands of ways to unwind that do not require anything to be on fire. Just say no.
     
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    The FDA wouldn't promote smoking marajuana to control symptoms such as nasea and anorexia. The main reason being that they can't monitor the actual intake of the drug--how much was smoked and how much went up in smoke. They've done studies in smoke form (to compare the effectiveness against pill form), but there was always a clinitian present to monitor the intake.

    Since Marinol (pill form of marajuana) is already effective and marajuana (smoke form) contains more tar than most tobacco products, they don't see a reason to allow patients to smoke the drug, even if they need it.

    There chance of a patient taking Marinol by RX that is laced with contaminants is far less likely (practically nil) than the patient smoking marajuana he bought from "Iguanaman" down on the street corner--which he assumed was ok because he had a RX.

    This is why they recently passed the law that states anyone who is caught with a joint-whether they have a Rx from their physician or not-can be prosecuted.

    Simply put, it's not going to happen. But, what WILL most likely happen is that we'll see Marinol sold on the streets like every other Rx-turned-recreational drug out there.

    But, to avoid being accused of changing the subject-chasing rabbits or whatever, I will say it's wrong and it doesn't belong in anyone's mouth. So, no, I would not smoke it...EVEN if it had been prescribed as a smoke. I do recall a doctor trying to get me to take Marinol years ago when it first came out. I refused it then and I'd refuse it today. However, I wish they had the drug when my M_I_L was alive because she would have lived longer-no doubt...but I'm not sure if she would have WANTED to live longer, given the immense pain she experienced.
     
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    The best way I know to unwind is to get one on one with my God, He alway's makes me feel great.
    I dont need alcohol or drugs to unwind, And I pray that I never will.
     
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    Sorry I bumped you servent. [​IMG]
     
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    I tried that same excuse with God.. well Pot is less intoxicating and lasts less duration..

    You know what God told me when i picked up his word? Stop making excuses... Dont think im picking on the chronic(weed) smokers, because up until last week, I would smoke Half Ounze(14g) a week almost. IT was a deamon taking my money and time. I cant tell you how much happier you feel naturally. But Im not gonna lie at times I get angry, frustrated and depressed-- Withdrawl symptoms?? AGAIN I FEEL I kept fighting with God over this issue nearly 5 years.. Thanks To Gods Grace I have been set from this habit.. I dont think its a Gateway drug but I do feel it is a drug.. after a while u feel its not even a drug.. Im less selfish now and less self concieted.....
     
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    In some of the Norse countries they had dope smoking cafe's whcih were all legal, yet they have had to be closed because of global passive smoking laws.

    Mary Jane will not be legal in the smoking form, yet I suppose it wont be too long before the cookies are available at your local supermarket. Hey Betty Crocker may even do a Cake Mix! [​IMG]
     
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    I know alcohol in large quantities can hurt the liver, but I am not sure I believe it kills brain cells. It dulls senses when people drink too much, but in moderation there are no affects to the body or senses. When people who have been drunks for many years finally sober up, they seem to function just fine, where people who have been addicted to drugs don't seem to be "all there."

    Science seems to change its mind to the affects of alcohol so you know they really don't know. One day it is harmful the next it is good for the heart and then it is harmful again...

    Pot however, from what I am told, and from what I have seen, does kill brain cells and it usually doesn't take much to start that high.

    The Bible says we are to be sober minded and to not be drunk with wine. The Bible implies drinking in moderation is allowable as is drinking for medicinal purposes.

    I see no way to do drugs in moderation when the drugs fry the mind and cause an intoxicated symptoms and behavior upon the slightest amount of use.

    With that said, while drinking in the Bible was acceptable in moderation (Which would not seem reasonable if it fried the brain), Paul said that while things were lawful, they might not be beneficial. I personally don't drink because I don't want to affect my witness or cause weaker brothers or unsaved people to mistake moderation for a license to partake in drunken behavior.

    Legal or not, drugs are bad and I would not take them.

    ~Lorelei
     
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    I say, probably not. But...marijuana is legal here as a medicinal agent so why would it be bad? I myself have not seen scientific studies that shows it fries your brain, though the side effects tend to lead to that conclusion.

    That being said...why would a bunch of conservatives opposed to too much government control want the government butting (pun intended) into people's private affairs such as smoking a joint that may fry their OWN brain or even what gender a person wants to marry? Who is the government to control what one does to their OWN brain...especially when you don't have government sponsored health care hmmm?

    Would I smoke it? Probably not...I don't have a need for it. But if alcohol and cigarettes are legal, common sense says marijuana should be too. Besides it would increase the tax grab for the government...they would love that.
     
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    "No it would not. Our bodies are supposed to be treated like a temple of God and pot does not fit into that equation
    Faithgirl"

    Should junk food be made illegal? It wrecks our "temple". Jesus said it is what comes out of the mouth that defiles the temple, not what goes in. I will believe Him.
     
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    Marijuna causes brain damage. My son has brain damage from it, I discussed this with a professional drug counselor. It breaks my heart to think of it, but thats what happens when someone falls away from their relationship with God, sometimes the conquences are for a lifetime. Thankfully, he doesn't do that anymore, attends church regularrly, and is happily married expecting their fisrt child in a matter of days now (YIPPEE!!).
     
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    "Thankfully, he doesn't do that anymore, attends church regularrly, and is happily married expecting their fisrt child in a matter of days now"

    that is great to hear [​IMG]

    Ok, marijuana causes brain damage. Is it the government's business to butt in and protect the people from self inflicted brain damage? I would expect a board full of conservatives to say "no way!".
     
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    It is the government's business when those same people use this drug and then derail a train killing passengers. And when they get behind the wheel of a school bus, and pilot a plane from New York to Los Angeles. Laws are there for good order and safety. Sometimes we have to be protected from ourselves. Just because you can does not mean you should.
     
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    Why require the pill form when the natural form will do? Money. When you can grow it on your own, you aren't pumping money into the pharmaceutical system.
     
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    But as far as recreational use goes, I don't think Christians should partake, and I don't favor legalization of marijuana because of the public safety issue.
     

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