If Senator McCain Wins?

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  1. KenH

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    If Senator McCain wins, what are the prospects for conservatism to blossom in Washington, D.C.?

    1. John McCain will be calling the policy shots, not Sarah Palin.
    2. The Democrats will likely have about a 10 seat majority in the Senate.
    3. The Democrats will likely have about a 50 seat majority in the House.

    So how will a McCain victory result in conservatism being advanced in Washington, D.C. for the next four years? Would it not be more likely that liberalism will advance strongly during a McCain presidency for the next four years?
     
  2. LeBuick

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    McCain's constituents, supporters and object of his speeches are not the average American so he doesn't need to worry about bipartisanship. Just like it is today under Bush, if the Dem's ever expect to get anything past him they will have to conceded to some of his wishes.

    Not saying this is good or bad, just how it works on the hill. It amounts to liberalism and conservatism will win some and loose some.
     
  3. Andy T.

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    Not nearly as much as it would under Obama. One would drive us at 10 MPH over the impending cliff of an atheistic socialist culture of death, while the other would drive as at 100 MPH. With the one driving only 10 MPH, it gives us more time to divert the direction from the impending doom.
     
  4. North Carolina Tentmaker

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    When it comes to our government gridlock is not, IMHO, a bad thing. Even the current democratic do-nothing house and senate are better than it would be if Nancy Pelosi were actually moving her agenda forward. I think any time we get the Presidency and both houses of congress all with the same party we are in trouble.

    Remember the Republican shut down of 90 whatever? I got a call from a pollster afterwards asking me how the government shut down had affected my life. I told him that it just confirmed what I had suspected, that if they all went home and stayed home permanently the country would be better off.

    You are right Ken, liberalism will advance during the coming McCain administration, and it will not be contained. It will not, however, advance as fast as it would have under Barak Obama.

    I fear greatly at our nation will eventually fall to the socialist liberals that now rule Europe. This last, bright flame of liberty on the Earth will eventually be extinguished, but I will fight against that as long as I have breath.
     
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    As will I.
     
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    Well worth fighting for.
     
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    It is evil and needs to be defeated.
     
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    My son-in-law, the preacher, says that Obama can't be the anti-christ like I thought. The anti-christ has to be of Jewish descent, because he will stand in the temple and proclaim he is the messiah.

    BUT......my son-in-law says that Obama could very well be the false prophet talked about. The way the people have flocked to him as if he is going to redeem mankind is horrible! He has yet to offer anything of substance, but people blindly believe in his constant chatter about change. The change will be the destruction of this Democracy.

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    I don't know if he is the anti christ or the false prophet, I do know that when you examine his anti biblical beliefs* you know he is in close kinship the their side.

    * supports abortion, children are a punishment, witholding healthe care from live birth babies if the mother doesn't want them, pro homosexual, anti marriage between one man and one woman.
     
  10. Jonathan

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    Good questions. On the one hand, McCain has shown a desire to buck the leaders of his own party. Since at least 2002, these leaders have needed to be bucked on domestic spending increases and the creation of new longterm entitlements. On the other hand, he also has a track record of cooperating with folks who want truly bad (and dangerous) programs like McCain-Feingold and the Bush Comprehensive Immigration Plan.

    He is both a Maverick and someone who desparately wants to be liked and seen as principled. So would he be willing to veto a Budget with earmarks and deficit spending? Would he be willing to nominate originalist candidates to the federal bench and stand by them as a heavily leftwing Senate refuses to vote them out of committee?

    Is he willing to play hardball in support of conservative principles? I'm not sure. But I am sure that Obama will do so in favor of liberal policies.
     
  11. righteousdude2

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    The Very Reason to Vote McCain&Palin

    Since we have such a heavily weighted Democratic Senate and House already in place [per your chart and predictions, we [Conservatives] need to retain the Executive Branch of Government in Washington to level the playing field for those of us who are NOT baby killing [Right to Choice], peacenicks!

    McCain will more than likely not run in 2012, which gives Palin 4 years of executive experience under her belt, which will propel her to a decisive win over Mama Clinton.

    The way I see it Ken, if it weren't for you, there'd be very little information and propaganda for Obama on this forum. Thanks for all your wonderful contributions, which have helped this Independent choose the McCain/Palin ticket. The info you provided in this post shows me why the conservatives must do everything in their power to assure that truth, justice and the American way continue in the name of free men and women all around this nation.:laugh:

    In Love and Fellowship,

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  12. KenH

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    You are quite welcomed. :)
     
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    Board Members Beware: Ken Takes Things Out-of-Context

    Gotcha Ken! If you can take that little sentence out of my post and make it look as though I'm supportive of your contributions to the BB, than what else are you taking out-of-context when you report on the Great I Am [Obama, of course].

    I think your most recent post demonstrates that maybe we really shouldn't trust half of what you write about regarding Obama [the Great I Am]. :laugh:

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  14. KenH

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    You weren't sincere in saying, "Thanks"?
     
  15. righteousdude2

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    Maybe a Little...

    I may have been leaning on the edge of sarcasm, sorry! I know that is not very Christian on my behalf! But, I couldn't help it?:laugh:

    Pastor Paul
     
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    McCain is sure making a case for his liberal advancements but this is the same guy who thought the economy was solid and poor was anyone under $5 Million. I don't think he changed that much in so few weeks. I think he is doing and saying whatever he can to get in...

    You are right about Obama, I don't think the Hill will initially work well with him but it will be time for the democratic house to step up and have his back.
     
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    A good analogy. I'm surprised the Metrodome wasn't brought into the symbolism some how :laugh:
     
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    You seem to be making an error in your point number one Ken. Neither McCain nor Sarah Palin will be "calling the shots" their globalist and neocon handlers will be doing that by limiting their policy choices.

    America's wealth and resources will still be used to further and protect the interests of the ruling elite. It would be the same with Obama and Biden. I think the best we can hope for in a McCain presidency is gridlock. But then the democrats have already shown they haven't enough backbone to stand up to the neocon endless war machine.

    The dems have a pretty solid record of knuckling under when confronted with the old Hermann Goering principle.

    Good old fashioned conservatism is pretty much a done deal in these United States. International corporatism and the big brother security state is all the rage now. Look for even more erosion of civil liberties, ownership of private property and privacy. Look for more wars with Iran and Russia as we continue to push Russia to it's limits by propping up "democratic" dictatorships and planting missiles along it's borders.

    Sarah Palin may talk a good game and all and I actually like her. I'd vote for her as governor probably but she's a little fishie that's chosen to swim with the sharks. She makes for a great symbol of conservatism but in the end I believe she'll be swallowed up whole by the neocon war machine. I can already hear it's influence coming through in her speeches.
     
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    Sad, but true


    I fear you are right, but let's pray things will turn around.

    Let's pray this doesn't happen, but we are dangerously close to that.

    I find her basically likable as well.

    I agree.
    Yep, once she started speaking about foreign policy, I knew that she probably has drunk the neo-con Kool-aid. :tear:
     
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    If McCain wins we will be fighting several more wars and the govt will probably clean out the prisons to get cannon fodder, which might not be a bad idea.
     

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