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If Spurgeon was alive today?

Discussion in 'Polls Forum' started by Ruiz, Oct 14, 2011.

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  1. Yes, I would join Spurgeon's Church

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  2. No, I would not join Spurgeon's Church

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  3. ????? Explain!

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  1. Ruiz

    Ruiz New Member

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    If Spurgeon was alive today and preached in your town, would you join his church if you were looking for a new Church?

    Spurgeon was a Calvinist, Evangelist, thought darbyism was a cult, smoked cigars, drank wine, condemned the infancy of modernism/liberalism/the downgrade, supported men only in the pastorate, believed in innerancy, condemned their theater system, and was for Elders. But is considered the "Prince of Preachers" and one of the greatest Baptists in history. He preached to more people than anyone since probably the Apostle Paul. He was a prayer warrior, solid in doctrine, and uncompromising on important issues.

    Would you join his church? Would you condemn him for some of his beliefs?
     
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  2. Earth Wind and Fire

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    In a way I have.....by joining the Reformed Baptists though Im still more PB directed (there are no churches in New Jersey)
     
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    I'm not sure who the Sr. Pastor is should be the basis for joining a church. I'm not sure there has been a pastor I agree with 100% on everything, and if I were to base my membership on that I would never find a church.
     
  4. Jim1999

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    If I were alive in Mr. Spurgeon's age, yes I would join without a pause. This picture of him is deceptive because it does not give the details. The fact that he quit smoking his cigar when he learned it became a stumbling block. Drinking a glass of wine with dinner, or just before dinner was part of the culture, just as drinking beer in a German Baptist Church after services.

    You fail to mention that many of the foundational American Baptists also smoked cigars and pipes. These are the chaps who led the Baptist movement.

    Nothing Mr. Spurgeon did affected his theology and dedication to Christ and the word. Culture and time period cannot be ignored.

    Cheers,,,,,now, where is my pipe?

    Jim
     
  5. Ruiz

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    Jim,

    I agree. I don't have a problem with alcohol or a cigar. However, alcohol is sometimes used at a litmus test by some Baptists in America.
     
  6. Jim1999

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    The problem with alcohol as a beverage is more the association of it with abuse, crime and the like, more than a glass here and there.

    Personally, I can find more serious problems in other areas to be bogged down with puffing a fag or sipping a bitter.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Me too!

    And he stopped drinking and supported the Temperance Movement (with qualifications).

    Spurgeon was a gift to the Church not only for his own age, but many years after his death. I agree with you Jim.
     
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    Say what? I heard the first expression before,but you surely know the meaning for Americans is quite different. But I never heard the usage of "bitter" in the context of drinking.
     
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    Isaiah 24:9
    strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it
     
  10. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Clearly Isaiah never had a good unblended Scotch which tastes more peaty & smoky than bitter:love2::D
     
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    Just for non-Brits, a 'fag" is a smoke, and "bitter" is beer.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  12. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Then can I say that I hate "fags" & love "bitter" LOL

    Keep your pecker up Jim! :laugh:

    BTW......sharing a bowl might have a different meaning in America!:smilewinkgrin:
     
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