yup, that's somewhat a lingering question. in total depravity, every individual is: 1. born with Adam's sin. this got them condemned since birth. their volition is not tested for this imputation. 2. has the sin nature. again, each one acquired the sin nature without any respect for volition. each one has it through seminal transmission - from parent to child. this got everone to sin. more so, unable to respond to God's general call - a call of God wherein God absolutely fails! given this case, each non-elect never had the choice but to be condemned, inclined to sin, and unable to respond to God's call. again, their volition was never tested for them to become depraved. taken, God is still just, sovereign, righeous, etc. with all these. nevertheless could we say that: 1. each non-elect is responsible for his own condemnation? or is he made responsible? 2. did they really had a choice?