If we are married now, and the rapture happens. Will we still be together in heaven?

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  1. TaliOrlando

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    If we are married now, and the rapture happens. Will we still be together in heaven?

    When the Rapture happens and we ( Wife, Daughter and I ) go with the Lord. Will we still be a family in heaven? or will we be seperated in Heaven? How does that work? :godisgood: :jesus:
     
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    There will be only one Bride in Heaven. The Church.
     
  3. webdog

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    I believe the relationship "titles" will come to an end, but the relationships will continue stronger than ever :thumbs:

    Think of it like this: You become best friends with someone you work with. That friend leaves your work and becomes employed elsewhere. While you are no longer co-workers, your relationship is not terminated. You still do the same things outside of work, and fellowship the same, in some cases better (and some worse, but there will be no bad relationships on Heaven)
     
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    1. There are NO clear answers to your question
    in the Bible. To figure out something from the Bible
    you would have to extrapolate way outside the
    data there.

    2. To extrapolate outside the data (i.e. what is
    in the Bible) one needs to study the Bible and
    figure out the general principals therein.

    3. From the Nature of God doctrines of the Bible
    we can see that God is always fair AS JUDGED BY
    GOD. But also from the Nature of God doctrines
    as the Bible teaches we get that God is the only
    entity in the Universe capabable of properly Judging
    all things & all other entities. But also from the
    Nature of God doctrines is the Bible teaching that
    God is always a God of love having peoples best
    interest in His heart.


    4. Once I had a dream (and I claim nothing from
    this dream except that it might be intersting to
    contemplate about). I went to heaven and took
    a survey. There were eight things there that the
    average citizen of heaven considers BETTER than
    sex on earth.

    5. I think that the longer we reside in heaven the
    more the things of this live shall pale in insignificance.
    I.E. IMHO the qeustion in the OP (opening post)
    isn't a good question to ask. What about that 14-year
    old male I prayed the sinners prayer with? His
    parents took him off next year. Never heard from
    him again. I'll know him for he and I both will know
    as we are known.

    6. And for good measure I'll throw this in.

    Theorum of Sets: An infinite set can be
    divided into any finite number of infinite subsets.

    What it means in eternity (an infinite set of
    centuries) is that the set of times when I interact
    with anybody else will be an infinite set of centuries.
    So basically I'll be alone with each of my wives
    FOREVER. In heaven I'll be meeting with the people
    that I know on BB FOREVER. I guess I better start liking
    them more, I'll be with them forever.

    Here is an example from arithemetic.
    Consider the infinite set of counting numbers:
    {1,2,3,4,5,6, ... } (here ... means wituout limit, just
    keep adding one to the once before and you can keep
    adding numbers). Consider three divided into each of
    those numbers making three (finite number) subsets
    according to the remainder: 0,1, or 2.

    remainder 0 {3,6,9,12, ... }
    remainder 1 {1,4,7,10,13 ... }
    remainder 2 {2,5,8,11,14, ... }

    A finite number (3) of infinite subsets made from
    an infinite set.

    John 3:16 (KJV1611 Edition):
    For God so loued ye world, that he gaue his
    only begotten Sonne: that whosoeuer beleeueth in him,
    should not perish, but haue euerlasting life.
     
  5. Alcott

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    Then what is your answer to the question the Sadducees put to Jesus; that if a woman was married to 7 different brothers, according to the Law, then whose wife is she in the resurrection? Or, just answer if a Christian's spouse dies and (s)he remarries, is the first or the second the spouse in the world to come?
     
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    I don't think you will be "separated". I think it will be like going to an old fashioned Church "home coming"! Lots of family and friends to talk to and good food to eat! Whether camp meeting, or "home coming" even in this world if it is a really good one with lots of people to talk to -- you hardly see your family until it is time to go home. Something like that is waiting for us.

    During the reunion program you will not be continually gathering together as a small family unit as much as going out and meeting the extended family members and introducing them to your wife and kids "when you can find 'em" - just like you do it today.
     
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    My answer was based on that scripture:

    Mat 22:2532 (Geneva Bible, 1599 Edition):
    Nowe there were with vs seuen brethren,
    and the first maried a wife, and deceased:
    and hauing none yssue, left his wife vnto his brother.
    26 Likewise also the second, and the third,
    vnto the seuenth.
    27 And last of all the woman died also.
    28 Therefore in the resurrection, whose wife
    shall she be of the seuen? for all had her.
    29 Then Iesus answered, and sayd vnto them,
    Ye are deceiued, not knowing the Scriptures, nor the power of God.
    30 For in the resurrection they neither marie wiues,
    nor wiues are bestowed in mariage, but are
    as the Angels of God in heauen.
    31 And concerning the resurrection of the dead,
    haue ye not read what is spoken vuto you of God, saying,
    32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac,
    and the God of Iacob? God is not
    the God of the dead, but of the liuing.
     
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    That refers to the mending and reworking of broken family relationships.

    But in cases where families are still "intact" no one "separates them" they simply enjoy the association of the larger family of the saints.
     
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    Amen, Brother Webdog -- Preach it! :thumbs:
     
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    We all will be married to the Lord and not to each other. We will love no one more than we love the other, is what I believe. I would hope we still would be together, but doubt any more than we would be with all that are in heaven. I would hope I know my parents and others, but it has not yet appeared what we shall be like, except scripture says we shall be known as we are known. I guess we will have to wait and see on this one. Ever how it will be, we will be satisfied.

    Mar 12:25For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

    BBob,
     
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    Do angels have gender? If not then how can we be married if there is no male or female? If angels do have gender then please provide scripture.
     
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    Angels do not appear to have gender --

    (Hint the Gen 6 chapter is not talking about Angels marrying humans).

    WE are "like the angels" in that we will not engage in making Marriage covenants in heaven. Maybe we will also be like them in that biologically we can no longer form family units as we have them today -- that is possible.

    But when it comes to relationship, love and friendship I don't think that will be stopped.
     
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    One: There is not going to be a 'rapture' ever! Relax! Or, Wake up!

    Two: You or nobody else is ever going to or is going to be in heaven! Relax! Or, Wake up!

    Enter into 'heaven' now, through faith in Jesus Christ, and in the end, receive the New Earth the home of the saved! Return to the pure Christian Faith, and threw away all these lies about salvation - Satan is fooling far too many honest children of our heavenly Father! If God is my Father through Jesus Christ, I am a child of heaven, even this suffering moment of glory to God.
     
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    We won't be losing our gender. We will be the same as now, but renewed after the resurrection. Our old bodies will be resurrected as they were when we died, they will not have gender removed from them.
     
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    Then if a Christian had more than one spouse and all 3 (or more) are in the Kingdom, then the spouse married to the 2 or more has his/her pick of which s/he loved the most [and/or was the 'favorite']. What if that favorite was also married more than once and the first spouse in this exmaple was not the favorite. Are there really going to "love triangles" [or love rectangles, or love pentagons] there, or do we cancel all this worldly affection and love everyone there the same?

    Corollary: As far as loving everyone the same, we cannot now conceive of love of which there is 'no use'-- not only is no one given in marriage, but no loving someone even as a special friend, which today means we go to great lengths to keep them from harm, to help them through disease and misfortune, to share joys and disappointments. So if there is no disease or misfortune, and no one who wish to do anyone else harm, love and friendship is quite different from what we know. In fact, if there is no conflict, there is no story, as we learned in junior high literature. So if it's a totally different 'game', why not assume 'relationships' and 'friendships' are something completely different, if any such things exist at all?
     
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    How can you be so sure about this? What I know of scripture says we will have a "spiritual" body. Are you implying an amputee will still be missing a limb? Also, pay close attention to the scripture Bro bob quoted, it clearly says we will be "as the angels which are in heaven."

    Ponder this a bit and tell me how you can be so sure?

    1Co 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
    36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
    37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
    38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
    39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
    40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
    41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
    42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
    43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
    44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
    45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
    46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
    47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
    48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
    49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
    50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
     
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    Spiritual body does not mention the absence of gender. Being "like the angels" is in regards to marriage covenants being made in Heaven, not that we would be genderless (Scripture does refer to all angels as men, btw).

    The Bible also tells us we will have bodies like Christ, and I doubt after the resurrection the disciples had a hard time wondering if Jesus was still male or not. it's clear He was, is and will always be.
     
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    God and angels are referred to in the male gender and mankind referred to as "man" -- "Let us make man in our own image".

    But i don't think that God OR Angels have gender as in the ability to procreate through biological means. What would be the point of having them in a biological condition for procreation when that is not their function?
     
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    We already have a family kind of love for parents (more than one) and children (more than one) and siblings (more than one) etc.

    I don't think the issue of genuine love is going to be the problem.

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    God is male because He is our Father.

    The only angels I can recall have male names, i.e. Lucifer, Gabriel, and Michael.

    I think we will know our loved ones, but possibly not how we are connected to them.

    We will love with agape love, not with the limited earthly love. So I'm thinking we will be like Jesus and love everyone in Heaven.

    Actually, I also believe we will be so busy casting crowns and rejoicing in the chicano glory of God that these questions will not even come to mind.
     

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